colyn
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Gnome and XFCE are both GTK+2 based desktops. While it is a desktop in it's own rights it is a version of Gnome.
KDE however is QT based.
odin626
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I've been using pclinuxos for over 2 years now. I tried ubuntu in 2007, it was a bit buggy and a bit confusing for the first timer, so I tried mandriva, and the biggest advantage was the mandriva controll center, basically a big fat wizard where you can configure everything.
I mostly use gimp for photo editing. I used F-spot and digikam for a while, but have been using picasa a lot more lately.
I don't think it's so much that its hard for windows users to adjust, it's just that it's really easy to change the way linux functions, and to a certain extent windows too, so that it is easier for you to use. My computer makes perfect sense to me, I tweaked it so much that it is like an extention of myself, put someone else in front of it and they're totally lost.
I mostly use gimp for photo editing. I used F-spot and digikam for a while, but have been using picasa a lot more lately.
I don't think it's so much that its hard for windows users to adjust, it's just that it's really easy to change the way linux functions, and to a certain extent windows too, so that it is easier for you to use. My computer makes perfect sense to me, I tweaked it so much that it is like an extention of myself, put someone else in front of it and they're totally lost.
xwhatsit
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GTK has nothing to do with GNOME. GTK was originally just a widget toolset written by the GIMP developers (GTK stands for GIMP Toolkit).
GNOME just happens to use GTK+ as its widget toolset. There has also been some developer cross-pollination over the years between GIMP and GTK+, as is often the case in the open-source software world. The libgnome library is often pulled in by GTK+ applications as there's some useful stuff in it, but it's unnecessary unless you want to use bits of GNOME in your GTK+ app.
Implying XFCE or any other GTK-based desktop is a `version of GNOME' just because they use GTK is a basic logical fallacy.
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I sick of the GNOME and KDE bloat a long time ago. Don't personally gel with XFCE or Fluxbox et al. Ended up getting into tiling window managers. Haven't tried xmonad, but tried a few others (liked StumpWM), ended up with Awesome which is, well, pretty awesome.
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I use Ubuntu at work, Ubuntu at home on most of the computers (apart from an old Windows XP laptop to handle the Canon film scanner), although my ancient home laptop wouldn't handle the upgrade to 10.04, so I had a play with Arch Linux and I'm sold on that now. Boots in about 15 seconds, and the package manager (pacman) is so much faster than Synaptic or even aptitude or apt-get.
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naruto
GASitis.. finally cured?
Thanks for clearing that one up.
I have finally landed on xmonad as my WM. It's easy to use, configure, and terribly fast. Also, Haskell is what all the cool kids are doing these days.
I miss it on my Mac, though I can run it under X11. The only other WM that I prefer to use is ICEWM. My servers at work give me the option of ICEWM, CDE or Gnome. :bang:
xwhatsit
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Wow, CDE! Old-school!Also, Haskell is what all the cool kids are doing these days.
I miss it on my Mac, though I can run it under X11. The only other WM that I prefer to use is ICEWM. My servers at work give me the option of ICEWM, CDE or Gnome. :bang:
I tried Haskell, but drew the line at the Haskell compiler dependency -- quite a hefty install (at least a hundred megabytes or more IIRC?) just to compile the config file. I don't write Haskell any other time (despite being a CS graduate) so it seemed like a waste for a lightweight window manager.
I do write Lisp from time to time so StumpWM didn't seem quite so silly to have all the Lisp compiler dependencies (what's with all of these tiling window managers having configuration files in funky languages?
).Must try xmonad!
naruto
GASitis.. finally cured?
Wow, CDE! Old-school!
I do write Lisp from time to time so StumpWM didn't seem quite so silly to have all the Lisp compiler dependencies (what's with all of these tiling window managers having configuration files in funky languages?
Yes, ghc is a hefty 60~80 MB install I think. I am teaching my Haskell.
Now, Lisp is old-school.
The last time I use that was for a AI course back in graduate school, and emacs config file. I do believe I have broken away from the church, and gone to the devil's spawn that is Vim. Church of Emacsxwhatsit
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Oh look, you're right out mate -- I want a text editor, not an operating system!
That said, vim is getting up there these days.
I can't unlearn vim, I often litter documents written in lesser text editors with odd `:w' incantations. It's got to the point where I've had to install a vim-keys plugin (Vrapper) into Eclipse at work.
Of course, that's the idea of a tiling WM in the first place -- easily fit as many as possible terminals with vim onto the screen
Lisp still makes sense to me, came across it when I was doing an AI course during my BSc -- instantly clicked for me. Ruby has some good features pinched from it, I sneak a bit into the occasional project at work.
That said, vim is getting up there these days.
I can't unlearn vim, I often litter documents written in lesser text editors with odd `:w' incantations. It's got to the point where I've had to install a vim-keys plugin (Vrapper) into Eclipse at work.
Of course, that's the idea of a tiling WM in the first place -- easily fit as many as possible terminals with vim onto the screen
Lisp still makes sense to me, came across it when I was doing an AI course during my BSc -- instantly clicked for me. Ruby has some good features pinched from it, I sneak a bit into the occasional project at work.
not_in_good_order
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I do all my scanning and photo editing on a Vista machine, but really enjoy general computing on my laptop which currently has Fedora 13 installed. I'd use Linux for all my computing, but I like using Lightroom (and Nikonscan *ducks* ) too much.
) too much.MartinP
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My normal pc runs Ubuntu. In the 'new' version there is a broken Intel graphics driver (from Intel, rather than open-source) so I had to use an old Matrox card instead of the onboard chipset, but apart from that glitch it's running fine. The window manager is Gnome rather than KDE, so I guess I shouldn't make an entry in the Kubuntu thread but it is good to advertise the OS.
Nearly forgot, I don't have enough digital photos to make any clever work solution necessary, but editing is done with GIMP on the rare occasions I need to go digital.
Nearly forgot, I don't have enough digital photos to make any clever work solution necessary, but editing is done with GIMP on the rare occasions I need to go digital.
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Bruin
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Another bonus for Linux users... open source digital asset management (DAM) software.
http://www.notre-dam.org/NotreDAM/Home.html
http://www.notre-dam.org/NotreDAM/Home.html