djonesii
Well-known
Dear all;
I have finished processing my first full fine art shoot with the Speed Graphic and the Polaroid conversion.
It stands to reason, that these images are not work-safe, and that if naked females offend you, don't look, that's why it's password protected.
User = Guest;
pass = matrix.
http://www.jonesii.net/2009_07_18_LF_zoya/index.html
As usual, C&C welcome.
Another MF format shoot has been developed, but not PP, so keep your eyes open.
Dave
I have finished processing my first full fine art shoot with the Speed Graphic and the Polaroid conversion.
It stands to reason, that these images are not work-safe, and that if naked females offend you, don't look, that's why it's password protected.
User = Guest;
pass = matrix.
http://www.jonesii.net/2009_07_18_LF_zoya/index.html
As usual, C&C welcome.
Another MF format shoot has been developed, but not PP, so keep your eyes open.
Dave
Bobbie
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I liked the shots with the dark background.
It's a pity with small web shots that we can't see the quality of the large format, though I guess big prints would do the shots more justice.
Bobbie.
It's a pity with small web shots that we can't see the quality of the large format, though I guess big prints would do the shots more justice.
Bobbie.
Trius
Waiting on Maitani
I only liked 6 & 7 ... All the others I found uninteresting and the poses awkward. The model seemed bored/not engaged in the session.
excellent
Well-known
Looks like it was a nude shoot for the sake of getting a girl naked.
Lighting and composition on the dark background ones were good but as said before she doesn't look very engaged.
Lighting and composition on the dark background ones were good but as said before she doesn't look very engaged.
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
Well done first shoot!
It goes without reason these shoots are called 'fine arts' shoots not just for the art of photography, but also for lighting, posing and directing a model.
I sure wish I had as much experience as the other posters on the subject. Just getting ready to step up to the LF challenge.
I'm pretty sure it takes time to get to that gallery level, getting used to working together, the pace of the shoot, directing etc. Even 'getting a girl naked' isn't exactly as easy as the others make it sound and it doesn't get the job done by itself either. Maybe the model doesn't look involved, but she's not shy either, which is an accomplishment for the both of you already, I reckon.
Probably will take me at least 1.5 years to get anywhere close to this, since I have to manage LF first and find me a girl that'll do the honours
Thanks for posting!
It goes without reason these shoots are called 'fine arts' shoots not just for the art of photography, but also for lighting, posing and directing a model.
I sure wish I had as much experience as the other posters on the subject. Just getting ready to step up to the LF challenge.
I'm pretty sure it takes time to get to that gallery level, getting used to working together, the pace of the shoot, directing etc. Even 'getting a girl naked' isn't exactly as easy as the others make it sound and it doesn't get the job done by itself either. Maybe the model doesn't look involved, but she's not shy either, which is an accomplishment for the both of you already, I reckon.
Probably will take me at least 1.5 years to get anywhere close to this, since I have to manage LF first and find me a girl that'll do the honours
Thanks for posting!
djonesii
Well-known
The shots with the Speed Graphic were all focused via ground glass and loupe. The Polaroid were all focused via the Rangefinder.
I would say the model was pretty engaged in the session, the high key shots were done at the end of the 2nd hour of shooting, and she had just finished a round of much more glamour oriented shots, and was very deliberately toning the vivacity down.
Dave
I would say the model was pretty engaged in the session, the high key shots were done at the end of the 2nd hour of shooting, and she had just finished a round of much more glamour oriented shots, and was very deliberately toning the vivacity down.
Dave
Jamie123
Veteran
That's a bit harsh, don't you think? Like he said, it was his first try and while it may not be the best shoot ever one can see that he put some effort into it. Saying that it looks like he was just trying to get the girl naked is quite rude.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
I quite liked the lighting in the black background shots but I found a lot of the poses didn't do justice to the female form.
I have somewhat limited experience shooting nudes personally ... I feel it's very hard to be original in this genre and I would have approached it very differently.
I have somewhat limited experience shooting nudes personally ... I feel it's very hard to be original in this genre and I would have approached it very differently.
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Al Kaplan
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For a photographer to refer to his/her photography as "fine" art borders on arrogance. The intention might have been to shoot "just because" rather than to satisfy a client but how it rates on the arts scale depends on the critics, the collectors, the galleries, and the mood of the times.
What I see is a series of well done studio shots of a pleasant looking young woman. When the New York Times reviews your latest gallery show and you have prints in the collections of several universities and museums then using the term "fine art" to describe your work would change from arrogance to merely pretentious.
What I see is a series of well done studio shots of a pleasant looking young woman. When the New York Times reviews your latest gallery show and you have prints in the collections of several universities and museums then using the term "fine art" to describe your work would change from arrogance to merely pretentious.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
I think that remark was intended more as an abstract comment than a direct accusation.
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Mcary
Well-known
Most photographer who shot this type of work use the term "Fine Art" in the same way other photographers use the term landscape or street photographers. In fact you'll find rather then being arrogant most people who shoot this type of work are quit humble.
Al Kaplan
Veteran
I always just refered to my efforts as "nudes" and famous photographers like Weston made photographs of naked chicks that everybody refered to as "nudes". He also photographed peppers and called them peppers. I suppose it has advantages being able to say "I do fine art photography" at family gatherings or to your pastor, but it's still pretentious.
sevo
Fokutorendaburando
And that from a well-read highbrow like you, Al...
Don't get heated up about the "fine" in there. It is a term, and has been around for longer than photography - ever since Europeans started creating art directly to be purchased as such (as opposed to art as a mere byproduct of room and church decorations or popular graphics). It is no quality designation, just like "passport portrait" isn't. There is bad and good, coarse and fine, successful and pathetically hopeless "fine art", but all of it was explicitly made to be sold on the art market.
Sevo
Tuolumne
Veteran
Some excellent work on your blog. I really liked the photos. Both erotic, evocative, and beautiful.
/T
djonesii
Well-known
My intent is not to be pretentsious by using "fine art", but more to distinguish what I'm trying -to do from "playboy nudes", " hustler nudes", galmour nudes", "editorial nudes" or any of the myriad of other ways to take photos of a model with her clothes off.
So, the "fine art" refers to a style rahter than the quality. I think some other posters have already made that comment.
Please keep in mind, that this set is very specifically limited to the 20 or so images that I took on large format film. In fact, it's most every image that I took, with almost none edited out. That is the nature of this forum, so the MF 35mm and digital are not in this set.
When I get around to post processing all the film images that I did with the Contax G1, and Fuji 645, I will post those links in the appropriate place. I have made an active choice to post some of the images on shot on the medium just because the are shot on the medium, rather than becasue they are the strongest images in the set.
The real world reality is some of the better images were captured with the D300 and the Tamron 28-75. Thus, they are not in the LF set. If anyone on the fourm cares to look, the URL and the logins are left as an exercise to the reader.
Dave
So, the "fine art" refers to a style rahter than the quality. I think some other posters have already made that comment.
Please keep in mind, that this set is very specifically limited to the 20 or so images that I took on large format film. In fact, it's most every image that I took, with almost none edited out. That is the nature of this forum, so the MF 35mm and digital are not in this set.
When I get around to post processing all the film images that I did with the Contax G1, and Fuji 645, I will post those links in the appropriate place. I have made an active choice to post some of the images on shot on the medium just because the are shot on the medium, rather than becasue they are the strongest images in the set.
The real world reality is some of the better images were captured with the D300 and the Tamron 28-75. Thus, they are not in the LF set. If anyone on the fourm cares to look, the URL and the logins are left as an exercise to the reader.
Dave
excellent
Well-known
Should I have lied and sugar coated it. I said his lighting and composition was good. Yet everyone is focusing on the negative truth I said. He asked for a critique and we are all open to say what we feel.
dfoo
Well-known
Saying what you feel doesn't mean you have to be an ass though.
excellent
Well-known
Being an ass like you have just said would mean that yes me being honest would be of the asshole caliber. Take it for what it is.
p.s. you still only took the negative out of what was said. overall my thoughts could be considered neutral if you didn't focus on the negative.
JohnnyT
Established
Hmm... I think it's not all important to play on word here... But... I would say that some people acts like university kids... Behave yourself...
We have a person here who made his first studio nude photoshoot that was not that bad at all... A really good first try. Not perfect, but not bad...
I really like the last picture. Very odd... strange... I like to think about a monstrous beauty...
We have a person here who made his first studio nude photoshoot that was not that bad at all... A really good first try. Not perfect, but not bad...
I really like the last picture. Very odd... strange... I like to think about a monstrous beauty...
pagpow
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Thanks for sharing --
I, too, like the black background better, in large part because the pose and lighting in many of those emphasize form. That said, I also like 7.
I found I preferred the B&W ones to the color ones.
I, too, like the black background better, in large part because the pose and lighting in many of those emphasize form. That said, I also like 7.
I found I preferred the B&W ones to the color ones.