eleskin
Well-known
Well, this is a bit shocking to me. I love this camera, so much so that I ordered a screen protector with adhesive on the edges to protect the panel. For cleaning, I tried to remove the protector and off came the clear panel that protects the LCD!!! It seems this is GLUED on!!! Anyone out there had this problem? This camera is built like any other M EXCEPT for this glue job!! I still have until next May until my warenty runs out. What do all of you think of this? What would be my best course of action?
tmfabian
I met a man once...
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Anywhere adhesives are used this can happen. Best bet is to give a holler to leica and see what your options are...who knows it may even be as simple as them mailing you a new cover. I assume they'll cover it under warranty in any case, it seems like a manufacturer defect.
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eleskin
Well-known
What I will tell them
What I will tell them
I will just say I took a rag and wiped off finger prints and it came off!
This should NOT happen with a $5000 camera! I went to Wal Mart and looked at the way the cheapo stuff was made, and it seems the plastic is more securue. If I designed this thing, I would have had a metal frame screwed on to hold it in. No glue like the cheap Japanese stuff. I am sure they will cover it in warrenty, but it is another design flaw!
I still love the camera though!
What I will tell them
I will just say I took a rag and wiped off finger prints and it came off!
This should NOT happen with a $5000 camera! I went to Wal Mart and looked at the way the cheapo stuff was made, and it seems the plastic is more securue. If I designed this thing, I would have had a metal frame screwed on to hold it in. No glue like the cheap Japanese stuff. I am sure they will cover it in warrenty, but it is another design flaw!
I still love the camera though!
eleskin
Well-known
By glue I mean this
By glue I mean this
It looks like a thin black adhesive strip shaped like the outer edge of the clear material that Leica used to secure this thing to the camera. Kind of like double sided very thin tape. Screws would have worked much better!!!
By glue I mean this
It looks like a thin black adhesive strip shaped like the outer edge of the clear material that Leica used to secure this thing to the camera. Kind of like double sided very thin tape. Screws would have worked much better!!!
eleskin
Well-known
Adhesive on Protector
Adhesive on Protector
This protector had a thin strip just on the edge. Not anything that would be destructive at all.
Adhesive on Protector
This protector had a thin strip just on the edge. Not anything that would be destructive at all.
tmfabian
I met a man once...
Post a picture, you've got me curious about what this thing looks like with pieces missing.
eleskin
Well-known
Right this minute, I separated the protector from the Leica Plastic that was in front of the LCD. Very little adhesive strength in the protector. This means this thing could fall out with or without a protector. There is a flaw.
Make sure that if any of you are in the field with this thing, bring some tape to secure the plastic if it comes out. This way, the LCD will not be damaged!
Make sure that if any of you are in the field with this thing, bring some tape to secure the plastic if it comes out. This way, the LCD will not be damaged!
eleskin
Well-known
Cannot post right now due to the M8 being my only digital and cannot take a photo of the camera unless film is involved. The Leica plastic is an exact fit on the frame. It rests on a metal frame in front of the LCD.
The inner metal frame is the same size as the black frame line around the LCD display.
The inner metal frame is the same size as the black frame line around the LCD display.
bennyng
Benny Ng
Goodness! I certainly don't expect this from the Leica M8. Perhaps yours is an exception in the production quality control.
Cheers,
Cheers,
Avotius
Some guy
hm....makes me wonder how the new sapphire screen is supposed to fit on there if they are just using double sided tape instead of some sort of hook and lock design. Sapphire crystal is a lot heavier then plastic so it should be interesting to see.
eleskin
Well-known
Well, I see what is involved in removal. This is indeed what I have. I am a film guy, and this is all new to me as far as how fragile these things are. I Guess being an M guy, I expected too much as far as what it could take. I have another flaw in the M8 in that the zoom function on the control wheel will not will not work. This was before all of this nonsense with the screen protector.
I assume Leica will repair both without too much trouble regarding my warrenty.
I assume Leica will repair both without too much trouble regarding my warrenty.
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
These glueing screenprotectors are rubbish. My brother stuck one on the M8 and the glue attacked the coating of the LCD. He is getting the upgrade now....
Btw, LCD screen covers are glued on on all cameras. And can be pulled off by this method.
Btw, LCD screen covers are glued on on all cameras. And can be pulled off by this method.
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Ben Z
Veteran
Christian Erhard told me the reason Leica wants $700 to upgrade the LCD screen (if you get it separately from the shutter) is because they have to take the camera just as far apart. So now I'm confused as to what the real truth is.
eleskin
Well-known
If they just glue in the new scratch proof screen for $700 or so, that is a rip off! Some after market source will make new plastic screens for $25. When the old one gets scratched, just pop in a new one!
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
They have to remove and reposition the new cover in a dustfree overpressure room at the least. I do not know if the exchange of plastic for quarz glass entails any other changes to the LCD assembly, but it may well be so. In that case the whole LCD will have to be removed.
Bill Blackwell
Leica M Shooter
I purchased my M8 through Leica's refurb program. After having a myriad of small issues with the camera the exact thing you're describing happen to me.
This was the last straw - this compiled with the other issues I had with the camera caused Leica to replace it under warranty.
I would at least send the camera in for warranty repair – if you try to fix it yourself you’ll risk having the warranty voided.
It is my understanding the new sapphire crystal back is actually molded onto the body and is not able to be removed at all without the entire back section coming off with it.
monochromejrnl
Well-known
surely you can post an image of the plastic piece that has fallen off? perhaps then we can see where it was adhered to the LCD screen...
Bill Blackwell
Leica M Shooter
The plastic LCD glass mounts into a frame just above the LCD monitor. If you have ever seen an M8 and looked at the LCD, it can be seen there is really only one way the clear plastic screen can mount - that is along the edges (like a window would mount into a frame).
One could simply bead the edges with super glue (or some other strong adhesive) and put the screen permanently back into place. But again, this would very probably void what is left on Leica’s warranty.