mmartin09
Established
So this is embarrassing, but also informative so I thought I would share it. Here's what happens when you accidentally grab the wrong roll of film and develop Portra 400 in HC-110 like its TMAX 400. I had no idea you could dev C41 as bw and get anything usable. It's not great, but its much better than I expected. I scanned it on my Epson V750 and did a 30 second levels adjustment in photoshop.


umcelinho
Marcelo
pretty good result (and photograph)!
Jake06
Established
A lucky escape, but the highlights look to have suffered somewhat.
eyesglassy
Established
That's cool. I'm going to try that. Thanks.
jenquest
Well-known
Love it.
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mmartin09
Established
A lucky escape, but the highlights look to have suffered somewhat.
Yeah, you are right about that; that might also be due to my 30 second layers adjustment in photoshop.
Timmyjoe
Veteran
That's amazing, I didn't know that was possible.
Best,
-Tim
Best,
-Tim
Lawrence Sheperd
Well-known
I've got over 300 12-exposure rolls of expired Fuji Superia X-tra that print with a magenta caste and must be shot at least 1 1/2 stops over. I think I'll save the CVS development costs and just develop it in Caffenol!
Tijmendal
Young photog
Oh my god!
That's amazing! I'm gonna have to try this for sure! I have a bunch of ****ty Fuji Superia 200 I really can't be bothered to shoot in color. Might shoot a bunch of 'em and just try B&W dev!
That's amazing! I'm gonna have to try this for sure! I have a bunch of ****ty Fuji Superia 200 I really can't be bothered to shoot in color. Might shoot a bunch of 'em and just try B&W dev!
gsgary
Well-known
Rodinal is good for this
T400cn in Rodinal
Xp2 in Rodinal
T400cn in Rodinal

Xp2 in Rodinal

semrich
Well-known
Rodinal is good for this
T400cn in Rodinal
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Xp2 in Rodinal
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Those shots looks really good.
I've got six rolls of Superia 100 and 200 that I want to develop in Rodial, what time and dilution dilution did you use? Any other hints or suggestions you can offer?
SteveM_NJ
Well-known
Nice to see.
Thanks for the tips and examples.
Thanks for the tips and examples.
Rhodes
Time Lord
I always get good results using XP2 with rodinal 1:100 one hour stand dev!
PatrickT
New Rangefinder User
Holy crap thats awesome. I had no idea. And the photo looks terrific!
Perhaps this is a new method of processing color at home?
EDIT: I assume the colors were messed up which is why you converted it to BW?
Perhaps this is a new method of processing color at home?
EDIT: I assume the colors were messed up which is why you converted it to BW?
znapper
Well-known
It does make sense though, because AFAIK, color film does contain silver, during the c-41 process, this silver is oxidized, which in-turn make the film release color dyes in the various layers.
The silver is then washed out, leaving the dyes behind, thus creating a color image.
By using a B&W process on the film, I suppose you'll end up with a somewhat faint/thin B&W negative...? (never done it myself, so I've never actually seen such a negative).
By that logic, this would postulate that one normally needs to overexpose a color film somewhat, to end up with a more normal negative after B&W processing it...it this correct?
The silver is then washed out, leaving the dyes behind, thus creating a color image.
By using a B&W process on the film, I suppose you'll end up with a somewhat faint/thin B&W negative...? (never done it myself, so I've never actually seen such a negative).
By that logic, this would postulate that one normally needs to overexpose a color film somewhat, to end up with a more normal negative after B&W processing it...it this correct?
Ezzie
E. D. Russell Roberts
Works a treat, done it often in Caffenol. As some have mentioned, dynamic range can suffer, especially highlights can wash out more readily, but I find mid tones can be rich and detailed.
gsgary
Well-known
Those shots looks really good.
I've got six rolls of Superia 100 and 200 that I want to develop in Rodial, what time and dilution dilution did you use? Any other hints or suggestions you can offer?
Cheers, i mixed it 1+100 for 19 minutes 7 invertions every minute fixing seemed to take longer than conventional B+W, i really like how the XP2 turned out, here's another in the sun

The shot about was shot at iso200, the one below was on the same roll i uped the iso iso3200 (potter through window)

mmartin09
Established
mmartin09
Established
It does make sense though, because AFAIK, color film does contain silver, during the c-41 process, this silver is oxidized, which in-turn make the film release color dyes in the various layers.
The silver is then washed out, leaving the dyes behind, thus creating a color image.
By using a B&W process on the film, I suppose you'll end up with a somewhat faint/thin B&W negative...? (never done it myself, so I've never actually seen such a negative).
By that logic, this would postulate that one normally needs to overexpose a color film somewhat, to end up with a more normal negative after B&W processing it...it this correct?
This is in line with what my experience was. I exposed as normal and had to really add some exposure in post to make it work.
znapper
Well-known
I found an interesting flickr-thread here:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/c41inbw/discuss/72157628487601523/
And also some additional information in a blog here:
(Maybe not safe for work!)
http://darkshape.blogspot.no/2011/12/49-guide-to-developing-c-41-films-in-b.html
http://www.flickr.com/groups/c41inbw/discuss/72157628487601523/
And also some additional information in a blog here:
(Maybe not safe for work!)
http://darkshape.blogspot.no/2011/12/49-guide-to-developing-c-41-films-in-b.html
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