Legacy Pro 100 in TMAX developer? Anyone?

[robklurfield]

Anyone have experience with Legacy Pro 100 (Arcos 100) in TMax developer? Any tips you can share?

 

[paulfish4570]

i've run some 35mm acros in tmax; did just fine. it was the standard recipe offered on the massive development chart: 6 minutes at 68F; i spin agitate 10 seconds every minute with the paterson tank/reel,spinner thingy. tmax is good, fast, versatile, quick to mix stuff. i'd use it all the time if it weren't so expensive compared to d-76.

 

[f16sunshine]

Paul are you going one shot? Tmax developer at 1:9 can do many, many rolls. It's quite economical if you squeeze it 🙂

Rob I use Tmax for acros 120 with good luck. The 5.5 min a 68f seems to be good if you hold the agitations down. For the pic below I inverted my usual 10 times at the begining and then only 2 more inversions. One at 3 min and another at 4 min. The highlights are clean with detail and shadows still full. I've seen less grainy results from others using acros. My guess is tmax developer is not the best choice for low grain. This is grain is what i like though especially in the wet prints. There but smooth.

 

[paulfish4570]

andy, i used it 1-shot according to the standard mix instructions. if our only photo shop will restock it, i will get another bottle and try the 1:9 recipe. tmax is sooooo much less fuss and muss.

rob, a couple of my acros 100/tmax shots:

 

[Freakscene]

Yes, it works just fine. 1+7 or 1+9 is the way to go.

Marty

 

[paulfish4570]

so, how do you make up the 1:9? the normal way is 1:4, right? so instead of 4 parts water to 1 part tmax, it's 9 parts water to 1 part tmax?

 

[Freakscene]

so, how do you make up the 1:9? the normal way is 1:4, right? so instead of 4 parts water to 1 part tmax, it's 9 parts water to 1 part tmax?

Exactly. I use '+' instead of ':' to make sure that it's clear that the measures are volumetric not a ratio. Kodak are clear about it if you read their technical documents, but if you look on the internet there are still people who will insist that it's ratiometric.

Marty

 

[robklurfield]

Paul and Andy, great shots.

Andy, thanks for the tip about the limited agitation. I'm curious, what's the effect/benefit of doing it that way? I'm trying to graduate from the almost idiot-proof stand dev method with Rodinal and various Neopans (the idiot-proof part has served me well!)

I did a roll of Neopan 1600 rated at 800 in Tmax 1+9 for 6.5 min @ 68f a couple days ago and totally screwed it up. It think it was my agitation that ruined it. That and possibly not enough development. No images. Lots of streaks running from the sprocket perfs. First roll of film I ever had come out that way.

Paul are you going one shot? Tmax developer at 1:9 can do many, many rolls. It's quite economical if you squeeze it 🙂

Rob I use Tmax for acros 120 with good luck. The 5.5 min a 68f seems to be good if you hold the agitations down. For the pic below I inverted my usual 10 times at the begining and then only 2 more inversions. One at 3 min and another at 4 min. The highlights are clean with detail and shadows still full. I've seen less grainy results from others using acros. My guess is tmax developer is not the best choice for low grain. This is grain is what i like though especially in the wet prints. There but smooth.

 

[f16sunshine]

My mistake. It is a 1:4 ratio that I use rather than 1:9. As for agitations. It just depends on the scene and how it was shot. The highlight areas of the negative use up the developer more quickly than the shadows. Personally I tend to overexpose when shooting film as I meter with sunny 16 and am a bit too conservative with EV. Less agitation is in affect over exposing and under-developing for the highlights. If the scene is of a lower contrast I will invert the tank more often.

This one had normal exposure and more agitation but I wish I had over exposed and used less agitation. Besides being a poor composure with awful boots 😉 It's sort of drab looking... acros usually has more pop.

 

[paulfish4570]

ok, i have it now: the standard volumetric recipe, which is the way i understand how to mix stuff.
so, freak, if i went 1:9, i'd use 10 ounces of tmax + 90 ounces of water to make 100 ounces of solution. right?

 

[robklurfield]

A really dumb question: I mixed a gallon of stock solution at 1+4. To develop at 1+9, am I now diluting the stock solution to volumetric proportion (ie, the 1+4 now gets diluted to 1+9) OR should I have diluted concentrate to the 1+9???

Perhaps this is where I went wrong with my first batch (I did the stock solution, then reduced it to 1+9; not diluting the concentrate to 1+9). Did I screw up???

A good reason never to start using a new recipe for the first time in the middle of the night.

 

[f16sunshine]

You can use it at 1:4 no problem. Like I said I wrote a typo originally. I use 1:4 for all my stuff. 1gallon can go 25 rolls of re-use before adding time.

 

[robklurfield]

andy, 1:4 from the concentrate OR 1:4 from the stock solution???

 

[f16sunshine]

I make a 1:4 dilution with the liquid concentrate. For 1 gallon of ready to use developer...... 26oz (rounding up slightly) of concentrate and then top up the bottle with distilled.

 

[robklurfield]

andy, thanks! that certainly explains my crappy results on that first roll. I diluted twice. I'm a dummy. oh, well, I've got a freezer with 30 or 40 rolls of film left, so plenty of time to get this right.

 

[Freakscene]

ok, i have it now: the standard volumetric recipe, which is the way i understand how to mix stuff.
so, freak, if i went 1:9, i'd use 10 ounces of tmax + 90 ounces of water to make 100 ounces of solution. right?

Just saw this, sorry. As you've realised below, you need 1 part TMax concentrate + 9 parts water. Not stock + water.

Marty