Leica CL & Elmarit to be announced on 11/21/17

Archlich said:
I don't think I can get the logic here...

The only models in for example, Sony's current consumer portfolio that cost more than the CL are the $3198 a7R iii, the $3298 RX1R II and the $4498 a9. Fuji makes a $6499.95 GFX 50S, but...

The CL is not quite a comparable model to these cameras, is it?
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re-read what i wrote. i was talking about used M240s
 
ptpdprinter said:
... If you are purchasing a tool to make photographs as opposed to a luxury item, what are you really getting for over three times the cost?
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A camera that works with M lenses, including coding for them. I just tested this and will post up when I leave my gallery.
A camera that makes you want to pick up an use it. It feels a joy to hold and use, quite unlike a Sony A6xxx. For my use, the only camera I use are the ones that I like to use. I am fortunate enough to have that choice.
The build of the CL is really nice, much nicer than Sonys or Fujis and... much nicer than the original film CL! I've shot w Sonys, Fujis etc and owned the CL.

I have to say after using the CL I am a bit disapointed with the evf. It is the same as those in the much cheaper rivals, despite some claiming I have to use it first. It's fine but seeing what Leica is doing with evfs in the SL and Q, not great.
 
FYI i tested it with my Summilux 50 asph and the 7Artisans 50 1.1. Spoiler alert - the 7art lens does not work with it unless u only focus from .7m to about 2 m. The rear of the lens sticks out too far past that and fouls against the inside of the camera mount.
 
Huss said:
re-read what i wrote. i was talking about used M240s
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"there are a lot of cameras out there from other mfgs that cost more. for some reason it's only when it's a Leica that people have issues with the price."

When new, the $6995 M240 was sligtly more expensive than other flagship cameras - The D4 was $5999, the 1Dx $6799. No other manufacturers, saves for those who make larger formats and special purpose ones, offered a more expensive digital camera.

Used, I bet there's no other digital camera (again, bar the larger format ones) released back in 2012 that could still sell in the $2500-$3000 range (the poor Nikon D4 can be had now for less than $2000).

I have no problem with the current going price of used M240s, as long as we are not comparing used to new ("from other mfgs")...?
 
Timmyjoe said:
Just another expensive Point & Shoot. Now if they had made it full frame, or at least made the 18mm an f1.4, I would think they might be on to something. But APC, f2.8 lens, what's to get excited about?
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So now FF and fast lenses make a camera not a P&S? This is silly.
 
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