Leica M-D in action
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willie_901
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Richard G;2609071... And there's no manual white balance option. [/QUOTE said:
willie_901
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No one interested in the convenience of in-camera JPEGS will buy the M-D. It can't produce in-camera JPEGs.
I never use in-camera JPEGs. I have not changed WB from auto since I started using DSLRs ~ a decade ago.
Tinted lens filters to affect color temperature corrections are redundant for raw. They might be useful for B&W, but I doubt it.
However I have gelled flashes to minimize selective, color-temperature blending for scenes lit by mixed light sources (e.g. tungsten lamps on one wall of a room and sunlight from windows on an opposite wall). This is not necessary but it does save time during raw rendering in post-production .
noisycheese
Normal(ish) Human
Next time Magnum has a meeting of its members in New York, you should crash the meeting and make that announcement. 😀
Brian Atherton
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Godfrey
somewhat colored
I enjoyed the video, thanks for posting it.
I'm already fully outfitted with cameras that work well and that I really enjoy using, namely the M-P and SL in particular, but this new model appeals to me quite a lot anyway. The lack of LCD, buttons, and dials on it means more space and room for my fingers when handling and shooting with it, and that's enough change to make it even more comfortable and convenient to use.
I see there's been the usual "want it to be smaller like a film M" on this thread. I believe that's simply impossible due to the Leica M lens mount register and the depth of the sensor stack. The M-P baseplate is only about 4.5 mm deeper, front to back, than my M4-2's baseplate, and the LCD is actually mounted outside the body shell so there's no gain from removing the LCD. The only way to make the body substantially thinner is to put the lens mount on a pedestal at the front of the camera, which changes the style (a lot of people wouldn't accept that) and most likely means re-engineering the rangefinder mechanism.
The battery is another obstacle to thinning the body: All the typ 240, 246, and 262 models are using the same battery and charger now, and it's a good battery storing enough power for up to 1000 exposures or more. You can't thin the body without requiring a different battery, and I'd rather not invest in yet another different battery and charger system.
No money for one at the moment, wouldn't really want to spend for it right now if I had the money either, but if a windfall comes my way I'll get one.
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I'm already fully outfitted with cameras that work well and that I really enjoy using, namely the M-P and SL in particular, but this new model appeals to me quite a lot anyway. The lack of LCD, buttons, and dials on it means more space and room for my fingers when handling and shooting with it, and that's enough change to make it even more comfortable and convenient to use.
I see there's been the usual "want it to be smaller like a film M" on this thread. I believe that's simply impossible due to the Leica M lens mount register and the depth of the sensor stack. The M-P baseplate is only about 4.5 mm deeper, front to back, than my M4-2's baseplate, and the LCD is actually mounted outside the body shell so there's no gain from removing the LCD. The only way to make the body substantially thinner is to put the lens mount on a pedestal at the front of the camera, which changes the style (a lot of people wouldn't accept that) and most likely means re-engineering the rangefinder mechanism.
The battery is another obstacle to thinning the body: All the typ 240, 246, and 262 models are using the same battery and charger now, and it's a good battery storing enough power for up to 1000 exposures or more. You can't thin the body without requiring a different battery, and I'd rather not invest in yet another different battery and charger system.
No money for one at the moment, wouldn't really want to spend for it right now if I had the money either, but if a windfall comes my way I'll get one.
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gavinlg
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LOL I can't really understand why the video gets under peoples skin, I enjoyed it. It was a little cheesy but really lovely visuals at least.
Huss
Veteran
If anything a film camera needs a screen much more.
You have a limited # of shots per roll while w/ digital you have literally thousands on a single card.
There's a reason instant backs were made - to make sure the exposure and lighting was correct for film photography. And what were instant backs? The precursor to screens...
And guess who the instant backs were aimed at? The pro market.
If you can't get the exposure right on digital, why should you somehow get it right on film?
I love this new Leica. And initially I was scoffing at it.
Dan
Let's Sway
Leica's new M-D
Leica's new M-D
Wow! There's a LOT missing for 6K. What do you think??
https://us.leica-camera.com/Company...al-Leica-rangefinder-without-a-monitor-screen
Leica's new M-D
Wow! There's a LOT missing for 6K. What do you think??
https://us.leica-camera.com/Company...al-Leica-rangefinder-without-a-monitor-screen
Godfrey
somewhat colored
It costs a lot to make a digital camera this simple.
Pablito
coco frío
Less for more is all this is.
I used the Leica m6 and worked it hard for 20 yrs. Had 3 of them and put thousands of rolls of film thru them, did dozens of exhibits. Now I work all in digital and can't afford the digital Leicas. But if I could I would not want to give up the advantages of working in digital. I don't chimp, but when I do, I want to be able to chimp.
I used the Leica m6 and worked it hard for 20 yrs. Had 3 of them and put thousands of rolls of film thru them, did dozens of exhibits. Now I work all in digital and can't afford the digital Leicas. But if I could I would not want to give up the advantages of working in digital. I don't chimp, but when I do, I want to be able to chimp.
Ken Ford
Refuses to suffer fools
I like the idea, but...
jsrockit
Moderator
I can't understand all of the fuss... it's one camera without an LCD and they make the same camera with an LCD. If you like it, you buy it. If you don't, then you buy something else. I can't be upset at someone else for wanting it.
Ken Ford
Refuses to suffer fools
It reminds me a little of all the sturm und drang over the Df. Some people gotta prove they're more orthodox than the rest. LOL
jsrockit
Moderator
Right, but I'll admit I wasn't a fan of the Df when it came out... because I wanted it to be F3 sized. However, a year went by, I saw the black one in person, and then I bought and used it... converted. 🙂 With regard to the Df, the gripes are fair if you expected a smaller size and interchangeable screens that are optimized for MF lenses. However, it's similar to the M-D in that people who hate it have many other Nikon models to choose from.
Godfrey
somewhat colored
Couldn't agree more.
I happen to like the idea of the M Edition 60 and M-D a lot, particularly because I have the SL kit for all the other stuff that isn't practical with an utterly bare-bones RF camera. Either of them with a 35 and 75mm lens is all the RF kit I need.
But I already have an M-P, which I thoroughly enjoy, and there's no reason to spend that money again for the M-D. If I was to come into a windfall and had nothing else pressing me for funds, I'd buy an M-D for the joy of it.
Lss
Well-known
Dealing with this scenario is not really as simple as having a screen or not.
Godfrey
somewhat colored
Tap the FN button once for a rating of how much battery is left, tap again for amount of storage remaining (in exposures). Pull card, fit in card reader, and check with compute or smartphone to check exposures.
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Fraser
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Fraser
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The thing about the df though as as much as you dislike the retro thing it still is a smaller body with a d4 sensor.
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