Leica M10 to be unveiled on September 17th

[ramosa]

....bring on the price drops!! @M8 & M9

ditto on the M9 front ...

 

[pedaes]

Well, I've got my invitation, and I know there's going to be a lot there. But I also wonder where on earth these speculations spring from. I mean, speculating on the number of buttons...

Cheers,

R.

Are you going. When you say "a lot there", do you mean people or Leica gear - or both?

 

[Roger Hicks]

Are you going. When you say "a lot there", do you mean people or Leica gear - or both?

Barring mishap, Frances and I will be there. And by 'a lot there', I mean that I'm expecting a lot of new stuff (Stefan Daniel told me there would be, at Arles). Do I know what it will be? No.

There'll probably be a lot of people there too. Again, barring mishap.

Cheers,

R.

 

[DougFord]

If the price of the M10 hits the upper atmosphere [and buyers can't breath 🙁], the 'M-camera' changed too much... the CCD sensor becomes a 'classic', and photographers realise its all they need with an full frame M9, I don't see prices dropping beyond what we see now. Maybe prices will actually increase 😱

I tend to think this as well.
Just as with the M8, a great number (> than the numbers associated with the M8) of used pristine M9 cabinet queens will be entering the used camera market. That's a huge number of M-mount FF digital cameras with very low actuation's, suddenly being made available to the current owner's of m-mount glass, at discounted pricing no less.
This is a boon to Leica's service department, as service revenues continue to climb, the digital business has been berry berry good to Leica.
So how can an "m9 classic" be introduced in this context? Not to mention the siren calls of all the mirrorless cams with adapters/focus peaking and even perhaps a FF mirrorless cam being made available at some point.
So perhaps the existing M9 becomes the classic digital Leica camera by rep/urban myth only.
Has Leica manufactured the last of the breed? What's in a name anyway, and who identifies what an M camera really is?
Leica gets to show the market their idea, once again, of what a M camera is. If the market rejects it, we'll see an updated CCD, no live view 'M9 classic' introduced. If the market agrees with Leica's new idea of what an M camera is, we won't.

 

[rxmd]

Disappointed with the date, I'd have expected October 10 or something.

 

[Vince Lupo]

My D4 is on its way -- guess the M10 will have to wait!

 

[sepiareverb]

The "new" Summicron looks different only in the hood attachment and in infill colors. The existing hood is pretty horrendous in size, a throwback to the pre-ASPH Elmarit, but more effective than an aftermarket hood I have which is quite similar to the 'new' one. I've been using the alternate Leica hood lately with very good results, even tho I always have an ND filter on every lens with the M9.

A 28 Summilux could be quite drool-worthy in my book, I might even sell a lot of stuff to grab one of those, and I suppose I'll need a 3 or 4 stop ND filter too...

 

[sepiareverb]

...Mine covers all situations for loss or damage, including my own stupidity, with no deductible and an automatic increase in value up to 150% (with no increase in premium) if replacement prices rise over time. To cover near $25k in gear, I spend just over $300 annually, less than the cost of my film and materials in the old days. No-brainer.

Jeff

Indeed. That seems like a very good deal, when mine comes up again in May I'll see about that replacement price increase. I spend a little more than half of this for substansially more coverage no matter where no matter what, but I'd have to be patient when replacing. Thanks for this lead.

 

[Jeff S]

when mine comes up again in May I'll see about that replacement price increase.

Just to clarify, my gear is insured at values I initially provided (retail cost of the item, as new). One camera of mine was purchased used, but it's insured as if it were new, for replacement purposes. I never need to get appraisals; the insured values were established by me, and my premiums are based accordingly.

If I experience a loss at any time, the insured value can be increased, without additional cost, as long as that value has not exceeded 150% of my stated values. The benefit is that I don't have to constantly update replacement values as long as they're within this range.

Obviously policy terms can differ by person, by location, etc, so specific terms should be read and well understood.

Jeff

 

[Scheelings]

I've never feared crime really, but when I went sailing with a friend last weekend and the wind was really rough, I realized that if we were to keel over, I'd lose camera and lens, and how the fear for this should not be a reason not to bring my camera to such days on the waters where I like to photograph boats and people. I doubt I'd want to bring a $7000 camera though if the possibility to lose it is far from hypothetical.

Why doesn't someone invent a coloured ball which floats. It would have a velcro flap with a hollow in the middle of the ball into which you place your camera. If your surroundings present the risk of capsize, you place your camera inside and the whole system floats - providing a weatherproof, unsinkable, easily identified camera protection system which deflates into something that fits into your pocket.

 

[jippiejee]

Why doesn't someone invent a coloured ball which floats. It would have a velcro flap with a hollow in the middle of the ball into which you place your camera. If your surroundings present the risk of capsize, you place your camera inside and the whole system floats - providing a weatherproof, unsinkable, easily identified camera protection system which deflates into something that fits into your pocket.

I really like this idea...

 

[leicapixie]

There is a factory waiting for use in China and possibly Japan still, for Leica new products! Chinon who was bought up by Kodak..I never thought about these cameras, Chinon, till i bought one on a street sale. A SLR that is really nice to use, K-Mount, aperture priority, double exposure functions, speed to 1/2000th.Leica could use them. Panasonic is busy buying up Olympus. Panasonic may not need Leica much more..
Big question? The Leica M10 or whatever at those prices is not for me. Even IF i could, i wouldn't.That goes for lenses like 28mm f1.4. Priced thru the stratosphere. Most in-exspensive DSLR have way better ISO than any Leica Digital. i use Leica but i think, that today there is better, easier equipment.

 

[leicashot]

I'm hoping Leica doesn't cave to the demands of modern photographers and ruin the classic essence of the M10 with modern comforts. Actually the monochrom is starting to look interesting......I may be back soon

 

[dave lackey]

Spendthrifts!

If I had the money to buy an M10 or several with lenses, hell yes, I would buy whatever I wanted!🙂 At this stage of my life, if I can make it happen, I willl. If not, not.

I am happy either way.

And, yes, I would dearly love an M monochrome if just for a month...it just fits.

 

[mervynyan]

So if this can take few minutes video without auto focus and C mode, I guess at f1.4, the motion will make folks dizzy, too much background blurs are not a good thing, therefore, f11 hyper focal we likely to see. Can't think of too many motion picture applications on manual focus gears unless we move back 30 years of tech advance, in which pan, tile and moving track for image stabilization a must.

 

[BobYIL]

I am not wondering about the M10 as it will not be far from the M9 in general design.. What I'm wondering is whether the STMicroelectronics could finish the developing of a CMOS sensor for Leica; and if not then when?

Actually a greater surprise -and the more plausible step toward future- would be a totally new concept based on crop sensor and a new range of AF lenses. (I expect this crop-sensor body too will be based on the STMicroelectronics CMOS; Leica's foreseeable future too seems to be dependent on this producer...) Leica needs more sales figures than they were able to do while satisfying the demand for FF-rangefinder pending since long (now a new plant, higher production capacity). However with almost 30K M9's around it would be hard to achieve even the same if they rely on the M10 only.

Just my two pfennigs from Leitz years..