bolohead
Joel Cosseboom
I consider 1600 high on film and digital. 640 is what I would consider high-ish. Whatever though, it's a bad shot. Drop the ISO and increase the exposure time and it would look cleaner, regardless of the camera.
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
Yeah, I tried doing that comparison to a guy who had a Porsche: going from point A to point B on my $150 bicycle. Not too shabby, and you save $47,450.00
Pickett Wilson
Veteran
I guess. If you want a Porsche, a Mustang just won't do. Snaps of the kids just look better shot with a Leica.
bolohead
Joel Cosseboom
I guess. If you want a Porsche, a Mustang just won't do. Snaps of the kids just look better shot with a Leica.
Here, here. Now if I could only figure out how to fit four kids in a 911. That would make the morning commute to school so much more enjoyable.
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TWoK
Well-known
Long exposure NR should take care of this, it does on the D700. ISO 3200 at 30 seconds nets almost no noise.
bolohead
Joel Cosseboom
Really? IMO the ocean has noise in this shot.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_wrath_of_khan/3375986618/sizes/o/
It is a great shot though, unlike the ISO 640 shot from this thread. It would be interesting to see that same shot at ISO 100.
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anorphirith
Established
me: "The colors look VERY bad, I don't know if it's color noise from the ISO 640 or the post processing"
that's what the guy answered:
"Anorphirith: The colours reflect the real colours of the scene resulted from lightening. Sharpening improved lines drawing which in turn increased noise texture, bearing in mind long exposure and darkness."
...rich ***hole
that's what the guy answered:
"Anorphirith: The colours reflect the real colours of the scene resulted from lightening. Sharpening improved lines drawing which in turn increased noise texture, bearing in mind long exposure and darkness."
...rich ***hole
TWoK
Well-known
For ISO 3200 @ 30 seconds I think it looks great:
Olsen
Well-known
I guess. If you want a Porsche, a Mustang just won't do. Snaps of the kids just look better shot with a Leica.
Abdulsalam,
Never mind the comments here. They are just jealous. I have been to Lebanon back in the 70', but never to Syria. Is this scene from Damascus? It reminds me very much of Lebanon, which I found to be a very beautiful country with a comfortable climate. I say to my wife that I want to settle in Lebanon when I am a pensioner. She thinks that I am joking. But I am not.
Friends of ours, she Norwegian and he Syrian, but living here in Norway, have a flat in Damascus. They have invited us down several times, but we have never managed to squeeze it into our schedules, but we would very much like to go.
This M9 and the new Noctilux combination is awesome. The Noctilux is intended as a portrait lens, but can be used for night scenes too. As you show here. Fine if you could post more Damascus scenes.
bolohead
Joel Cosseboom
It does look great for ISO 3200. I'm just saying that you are already fighting noise produced by the exposure time with long exposures, why not drop the ISO to reduce overall noise. Just my opinion that in general long exposures look better (on digital) with lower ISO's due to decreased noise.
Here's a 30 sec exposure ISO 100 from a Canon 40D. No in camera or post processing noise reduction needed.
Olsen
Well-known
Abdulsalam,
Are you satisfied with your M9 at ISO1250? Do you have any pictures taken with your M9 at ISO1250? Just curious to see how it looks.
Are you satisfied with your M9 at ISO1250? Do you have any pictures taken with your M9 at ISO1250? Just curious to see how it looks.
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
It does look great for ISO 3200. I'm just saying that you are already fighting noise produced by the exposure time with long exposures, why not drop the ISO to reduce overall noise. Just my opinion that in general long exposures look better (on digital) with lower ISO's due to decreased noise.
Here's a 30 sec exposure ISO 100 from a Canon 40D. No in camera or post processing noise reduction needed.
Sorry, but I don't need an M9 for that. My M8 will beat that by a length.
Your remark is basically correct for landscape and such, but normally one would need to superglue the subject to the floor.
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
Indeed, the camera handles those very well. No blooming, no artefacts.Yeah, but look at those blown highlights.
Ben Z
Veteran
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
Not what Top Gear says
Ben Z
Veteran
Well, 30 sec @ ISO 100 would still require 1 sec (approx) @ ISO 3200, so you probably would still need the superglue. As for overall IQ, to compare one would have to use the same lens, to rule out an important variable. I have just two lenses that I can use (for normal subjects) on the 20D, 5D and M8, those being the 400/6.8 and 135/4. I wish I could get my M8 to beat the 20D let alone 5D, but so far equalling is the best I've been able. Maybe I'm not post-processing the M8 files enough.
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Ben Z
Veteran
Not what Top Gear says
I've become addicted to that show ever since we started getting BBCA. I didn't see them review the Panamera yet, we're probably a season behind the rest of the world.
HSI
The Fourth
You are all lame.
KM-25
Well-known
Talent Tax...
Talent Tax...
Based on the almost total lack of talent behind the current crop of photos I have seen come from the M9 as of late, it would be great if a 20% tax could be put on the purchase of this gear if one's talent is lacking. You would present a portfolio and if it were not great, you get taxed...
In turn, this money could be donated to those photographers that *are* brimming with talent but not with money so that they could pursue long term projects or spec work that actually gives something to both the photo world and the image of the camera company.
Dreaming...
I'm sorry, but I have seen quite a few M9 pics and none of them do anything at all for me, not even Riccis.
Maybe in a year or so, we will see less tests and more photography.
Talent Tax...
Based on the almost total lack of talent behind the current crop of photos I have seen come from the M9 as of late, it would be great if a 20% tax could be put on the purchase of this gear if one's talent is lacking. You would present a portfolio and if it were not great, you get taxed...
In turn, this money could be donated to those photographers that *are* brimming with talent but not with money so that they could pursue long term projects or spec work that actually gives something to both the photo world and the image of the camera company.
Dreaming...
I'm sorry, but I have seen quite a few M9 pics and none of them do anything at all for me, not even Riccis.
Maybe in a year or so, we will see less tests and more photography.
tcline
Member
Chris Weeks is sporting an "M9" (or a cyborg M8 if you will) if you really want to see some real photos with it.