Leica M9 rumored to have big brother chip installed.

This has to be one of the most ridiculous rumors ever. In who's interest would this be? Leica is putting these chips in to who's benefit? Apart from the fact that different laws in different countries would make this impossible.
 
I would not worry about a GPS peripheral built into a camera.

As long as you do not download or scan your images to a computer that is connected to the Internet, has wireless, or an Infrared Port, you should be Okay. Otherwise, anyone can access them.
 
M9 Exchange

M9 Exchange

The tone of the exchanges on this thread is neither polite, informative, meaningful, or worthy of being posted.

Is it possible to revert to some mature language ?

John Sampson

david.elliott said:
Even assuming that the rumor is credible, I highly doubt that anybody is going to run around stealing your photos.

You arent a celebrity.

Your photos dont contain financial information or anything worth taking.

Ooooo the photos of your cat, the plant in the corner room, various family snapshots, and the slurpee you picked up at 7-eleven were stolen!
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John Sampson said:
The tone of the exchanges on this thread is neither polite, informative, meaningful, or worthy of being posted.

Is it possible to revert to some mature language ?

John Sampson
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I was a bit snippy, but the post was informative and meaningful. Whether you think it was worthy of being posted matters not at all to me.

The language was mature. The tone was snippy. And it was snippy because common sense isnt very common.
 
LOL I love it when absolute fools come up with these kinds of scare mongering BS rumours. It's so fun to debunk.
Ok now lets start - do you actually know what a GPS is? how it works? probably no since if you did you'd realise what a silly idea it is that someone would be able to use a GPS chip on any device to steal anything from that device.
A GPS chip is a radio RECEIVER! the GPS system does not work on the premise that devices which use it send anything anywhere. Only the satellites which take part in this system send any data - this is then RECEIVED by GPS devices and used to calculate their position on the planet. a GPS chip is unable to send ANYTHING out, it simply does not have the circuitry or indeed software in place for back and forth comms with anything. the hint is in the name - GPS receiver rather than GPS transceiver...
its like your FM radio, can someone hack into your kitchen FM in orders to steal your breakfast conversations? LOL
 
Taking "IN GOD WE TRUST" off the currency! Will it be replaced with "IN BIG GOVERNMRNT WE TRUST?

Latest Rasmusson pole says 58% of the people want congress unelected or replaced, every damn one of `em.
 
A few more rumors like this and whatever than the Leica really manages to put into the M9 will be just a pure disappointment. Come on guys, give them a chance :rolleyes:
 
!= means ....

!= means ....

GPS != data connection. .
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I have not read all the thread, but for those of you out there who are not computer folks, != ( somtimes called bang! equals ) means not equal to.

and another one of my personal favorites:

" There are 10 kinds of people in the world ... those who undersand binary and those who don't"

Dave
 
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Mephiloco said:
That's not how GPS works, just so you know. Also, several point and shoot cameras already have this technology and it's been recieved very well. It makes it significantly easier to tag/organize photos when they all have the Latitude/Longitude at which they were shot.

and as far as someone 'hacking' it (you referenced Paris Hilton) that is in no way possible. Cell phones are different as they have network connectivity, be it GSM, GPRS, 3G, Wifi, etc. Those pictures were taken from 'cellphones' due to a flaw in a service offered by T-Mobile in which your cell phone numbers, pictures, etc were essentially backed up to their servers which were web accessible. Security was comprimised on the servers which had the contents of the phones. The phones themselves were never comprimised, and had they been it would have been IMPOSSIBLE to do via GPS.

GPS != data connection. You can't send pictures over gps, you can't send text messages over gps. Gps is EXTREMELY slow, so slow that it takes a gps reciever 30 seconds to find out what time it is (30 bits/second). To transmit a 5 mb jpeg over GPS (which is impossible) it would take 388 Hours. That's 16 days, for 1 5mb jpeg.

It's also worth pointing out that there's a difference between a GPS reciever and a GPS transmitter. A camera would only have a reciever, meaning it could only recieve GPS data (ie Time and bearings) and would be technically unable to transmit any data of any kind. Some cell phones MIGHT transmit gps data, but it's not entirely necessary as depending on the area a cell phone can be triangulated by using the towers inside of a couple hundred meters (in some areas only down to 1000 meter radius). But still, it's not worth the cost to put in a transmitter that would not be used in the vast majority of the units.

So yeah, if the m9 did/does have a GPS in it, it is technically impossible that the security of your camera could be 'comprimised' in a way that you pictures could be stolen from the camera. The very worst that could happen via gps is that you could get wrong GPS data, and you'd have the wrong location and/or time on some of your pictures, but even then it would require a great deal of effort to do something so trivial.
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I agree with this. - I don't know what kind of technological backwater some of the Americans here are living in....

I have a Nokia cellphone with GPS & maps of the whole world - and a camera. With this i can tag each and every picture with the latitude/longitude coordinates. Both for some of the largest Nikon and Canon models you can equip the camera with a GPS receiver and tag your files with exact coordinates about where the picture was taken. So, the technology is there and is quite common. It would be a small thing for Leica to build it into their new M9.
 
Avotius said:
That is the craziest rumor I have heard in a long time, right up there with the Chinese rumor that American/Europeans only eat sweat bread and milk and we don't have any other kinds of foods. Totally mindless and stupid asumptions.
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This is just a prank, or stupidity.
  1. In Holland, there are ideas to have the cars pay tax based on actual mileage. It is is explained in newspapers as "you pay by satellite". (. . :confused:)

  2. GPRS is a dataconnection, within the UMTS standards and GSM. This can only be used with a . . SIM card. That is "impossible" to market in a camera.

  3. Some SD-cards have Bluetooth embedded, that is for specialty projects only.

I have worked in some role on all three projects above. That has no-thing at all in common with the products from Solms.

alberti
 
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