Leica Sibir copy...

Look at the other items for sale from the seller in the OP. He has a regular FED with all of the "Siberia" add ons. He is calling that one a FED SIBIRIA

And still asking the same price as the Leica fake. I guess anyone wanting the kit to make their own ain't going to be getting it for $30.

PF
 
As soon as I wrote that, I knew it wouldn't be right. The spring in the base should have been my biggest clue to its provenance.
I'm not so sure you were wrong. The rear of the top plate has only two screws and AFAIK all FEDs had 3. Also, earlier model Zorkis did use the long spring and not have the body trim strips. However, the curtain tension-adjusters are FED style. It could be made from parts from both FED and Zorki.

The shutter speed marked 50 should, of course, be 60 - bit of an error there! The shiny chrome isn't too appealing either.
 
I'm not so sure you were wrong. The rear of the top plate has only two screws and AFAIK all FEDs had 3. Also, earlier model Zorkis did use the long spring and not have the body trim strips. However, the curtain tension-adjusters are FED style. It could be made from parts from both FED and Zorki.

The shutter speed marked 50 should, of course, be 60 - bit of an error there! The shiny chrome isn't too appealing either.

Then I'd be willing to bet that if you pulled the top off, there would be five screw holes in the back. I've got a Zorki-1d with two serial numbers, thanks to an obviously transplanted rangefinder housing.

PF
 
Then I'd be willing to bet that if you pulled the top off, there would be five screw holes in the back. I've got a Zorki-1d with two serial numbers, thanks to an obviously transplanted rangefinder housing.

PF
RF housings are readily interchangeable, hence your example. If, as I suspect, the internals are FED they may have had a bigger problem than leaving out a screw. Personal experience tells me that the crate-to-top plate holes are not machine drilled (or if they are, the machines were poor) because holes don't always line up. I know this to be true for early FEDs.

However, there do appear to be inconsistencies which point to the likelihood of more than one donor camera. Caveat emptor!
 
http://cameras.alfredklomp.com/fakes/

"There are reports dating from around 1940, which note a FED-1 with huge markings for handling with gloves called the FED Siberia. Until recently, not a single known original FED Siberia seemed to have survived the war, until, all of a sudden, similar 'FED Paulus' models started appearing from out of the blue. Those cameras are almost surely fakes, but what if a real FED Siberia were to arise as, say, a result of the opening of the Russian market? Without very convincing papers and pictures to prove its originality, it would surely be dismissed as a fake. The same is true for FED TSVVS': forgeries are so common, that the real thing has become suspect.

What's for sure, is that these fake originals spoil the overview on the market, and make it almost impossible to know if a previously unknown rare variation is 'for real', or if it is a fake. If, say, a batch of purple FED-3s emerges, then, like the Siberia, they would probably be considered fakes from the get go."
 
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