Lense damage

[ulyssescat]

Ok.I have shot my first roll of film through my collapsible 50mm Summicron F2. Now perhaps I am being hasty and should probably shoot a few more rolls(different speed films,and use different shops for developing),but I have to say I am bit worried with the outcome.
Now on the shots I have taken at slow speeds,indoors,available light,F2 at about 60,there are many white marks coming up when I scan the negative.However,they are not uniform,and appear in different places on each negative.On faster speeds outdoors,hardly any white marks,again not uniform.
If I look through the lens at a light there are a few bits of dust inside the lens and a few cleaning marks on the front,but nothing that I would call major.
Do you think its the lense,or bad developing from Jessops???
I know its a little hard to make a judgement without seeing the photos.

 

[wtl]

Since you already scanned the photos, why don't yoou post one or two so we will know what you are talking about?

Dust in the lens doesn't normally come out on the film as white spots.

 

[ulyssescat]

Thast what I thought.Ok I will post the worst of the marks asap.Thanks.

 

[jaapv]

The description sounds like air-bubbles in the developer. It can hardly be the lens.

 

[wtl]

The description sounds like air-bubbles in the developer. It can hardly be the lens.

I huntch that's what it is but did not want to go all out without seeing the samples.

 

[VictorM.]

If the white dust is clearly defined, it's likely to be dust on the negatives. Sometimes rewashing, then rinsing with distilled water will remove that dust. Marks on the lens, if they show at all, will not be sharp, but they will get sharper as you stop down. Scratches, dust and other lens defects have almost no effect that can be seen on ordinary prints, unless they are really bad.

 

[ulyssescat]

Ok.If I have done this right,here are a few examples.The more I look at them,the more I think its either the film or Jessops developing.The overall quality is terrible.I have scanned other films from my other cameras and its sharp and defined.All these pictures are dull and metallic looking,as if I have added a chrome filter or something as an effect.The film was a Fuji Velvia 100 by the way.

 

[Shac]

lense damage

lense damage

I'd put major money on these being ther result of dust during scanning or if you developed the flim and left it to dry in a dusty environment (less likley)

 

[ulyssescat]

I thought that,so I scanned some other films and then rescanned the film in question.Same results.Old negs fine,film in question....well you can see the results..... 😡

 

[wtl]

ulyssescat, now we are talking. 😉

They look to me like dusts on the NEGATIVEs or the scanner glass. But since you mentioned that other negatives, with the same scanner(?), came out fine, I bet it is the negatives of these that are dirty/dusty.

Use an airgun and photo brush to really clean the negative and scan again and see what happens.

From the scan (depending on the cropping factor), it looks like some of them are big enough for your bare eyes to see them on the negatives, no?

 

[wtl]

BTW, this lens is not famed for its sharpness so these look typical to my eyes.

 

[teemu.laine]

Those long curvy things look like dust and those white "blobs" look just the same what I get when I agitate too much and there´s some air bubbles left on the emulsion.

 

[ulyssescat]

Ok thanks guys.So basically,don't use Jessops to develop your negatives.Will keep you posted on my other rolls.

 

[Doug]

Yeah, your typical lint, hairs, and dust. Processor needs to keep his equipment cleaner and make sure the negs are clean before scanning. My local 1-hour place has all the machinery right out in the open behind the counter, downwind from the front door. Dirt all over. I've seen them actually drag an uncut roll of film trailing across the floor from the neg processor to the scanner, then use a rag to wipe down the length of the film. At least they're trying to clean, but that leaves scratches. 🙁

 

[jaapv]

Yuk! Get the owners wife to buy him a vacuum cleaner for his birthday. And give your negs to somebody that knows what he is doing. Better still, get your own developing tank and darkroom/scanner. The scans look pretty low-res and horrible too, or, if you scanned yourself, were the negatives developed in exhausted chemicals?

 

[scigeek]

Ok thanks guys.So basically,don't use Jessops to develop your negatives.Will keep you posted on my other rolls.

Jessops?

Don't get me started!
:bang:

 

[Kim Coxon]

Hi,
I have always received an excellent service from Lab35. Sensible prices and reasonable turn round time with great quality.

Kim

Jessops?

Don't get me started!
:bang:

 

[markinlondon]

Jessops?

Don't get me started!
:bang:

So Jessops are now offering a two week turnaround and free dust. I suppose that's why I stopped using their processing even for colour. I support my local photo lab Forest Photographic. I've even stopped buying film from Jessops because their service is so poor (and this is the "pro" counter in New Oxford St I'm talking about)

Mark

 

[x-ray]

No question it's dust and some fine scratches as well.

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=5045

 

[ulyssescat]

Ok,thanks for all the help.I ran another film through it today.Colour Kodak 200.Cheap as heck film( I never normally shoot colour but wanted a quick develop and print).I did an hour turn around,again at Jessops.I am afraid,where I live I don't have much choice,and everything is fine.
Its diabolical to think I paid what I did,waited 2 weeks and got back that.Then all the stress of me worrying my lense was knackered.
Anyway all is well,the lens is absolutely fine,shoots lovely.Classic look.Not too sharp,lovely bokeh.Just what I wanted.
Thanks again for all the help and info.
I really need to learn to develop my own films.
Oh by the way,the scans were at lo res and then zoomed in.That explains the quality.

UlyssesCat