38Deardorff
Well-known
I've happily used a LHSA Leicavit MP on my modified M4 for a number of year until today.... Recently Strapateer has come out with a version of the Leica TROOV wrist strap (the original is super expensive, scarce)....& it's a beautiful thing. But..... the LHSA version of the Leicavit changed the position of the tripod socket....making the use of the wrist strap impossible. 🙁 Very disappointing!
(photo of original... photo of LHSA ...)
(photo of original... photo of LHSA ...)
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boojum
Ignoble Miscreant
Um, if a more central position of a tripod socket is a dealbreaker for you, do not despair. The X2D tripod socket is central to the bottom. I use a wrist strap and it works just fine. As always, YMMV.
38Deardorff
Well-known
It prevents the Leicavit rapid trigger
from advancing the film..... it's in the way and the Leicavit won't work in a single stroke.....I wonder whose bright idea the change was....?
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boojum
Ignoble Miscreant
Gotcha. Yeah, someone made a bad decision. And I bet they got a promotion out of it.
Rayt
Nonplayer Character
I noticed that too. Poorly thought out. Anyway I don’t own any now just a Rapidwinder.
38Deardorff
Well-known
It is a pain...since it's a nice combo...on the upside it will work w the normal baseplate or with other cameras
Jbennett68
Established
Would a smaller lug solve the problem?
38Deardorff
Well-known
well it might....but it's an expensive reproduction of the original Leica wrist strap....& in the centre it's totally in the way....
I just posted to point out how the Leica Historical Society & Leica screwed up a good thing....
(Even with the useless change, those Leicavit reproductions (2003) are now going for $3000 USD+)
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Jbennett68
Established
Oh. I assumed it came with the strap not the leicavit.
38Deardorff
Well-known
the strap and attachment screw ...came with the strap
The Strapateer Camera Strap Type D for Leica Nikon Rolleiflex Hasselblad
The Type D is a wrist strap for Leica Nikon Rolleiflex Hasselblad and is sturdy enough to carry the weight of both 35mm and medium format cameras. It has a buckle and keeper to allow the adjustment of the tightness of the strap around your wrist. Please make sure you choose the right option for...
thestrapateer.co.uk
the original position was much better
Godfrey
somewhat colored
I like the design of the Strapateer wrist strap, but da**! Over US$200 for a threaded fitting and a little leather strap!
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38Deardorff
Well-known
typical of small shop bespoke items..... the originals if you ever see one go for double that plus!
For context, a Leica neckstrap for an M-11 is $160....
If one happen to trend towards the 'leica gurus 😉( i don't ) a Thorsten Overgaard simple neck strap is $348.
Life is full of choices.
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Godfrey
somewhat colored
I guess I'm a cheapskate ... I've never bought a Leica neckstrap, and the ones that came with my Ms or other Leica cameras have always stayed pristine-in-the-box. 😉
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38Deardorff
Well-known
W/ a $10k tag on an M10 digital....you should get a free neckstrap.
Always a lot of glass houses on this and other forums.....
Godfrey
somewhat colored
Um, well, you do. Any new Leica I have purchased has always come with a Leica neckstrap. 😀
I just never use them, leave them in the box.
My M10 Monochrom, sans lens, cost me US$6100 new in 2022, and my secondhand M10-R with Summicron-M 28mm ASPH cost me US$7900 in 2023 ... So either you're talking in something other than US$ or my equipment has appreciated in value substantially! But I don't think I'll ever say I got them at bargain prices anyway. 😉
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38Deardorff
Well-known
All good Godfrey... current M-11 is $10k... not that it matters.... each of us makes our own choices.
Matthew Whiteman @Strapateer makes a good product. They're not stamped out by the thousands in an Asian sweatshop.
Good hardware, fine quality leather.
Ask any machine shop to copy that attachment and i think you'll find the hourly rate eye-watering.
Yes they're relatively expensive. Anyone is welcome to use paracord like Sean Flynn did...
RFF is not generally a place requiring rationalizing price .....
How about that Bertele Skllaney 😉 ?
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Godfrey
somewhat colored
Heh ... "Bertele Skllaney" ?? First I'd heard of that ... looked it up. Way over my pay grade. But cool. 😉
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Formerly presspass
Newbie
Not that it helps, but Tom A's Rapidwinder has the tripod mount in the traditional place. He also made a handgrip - Rapidgrip - that works with either the original baseplate or a grip. Baseplate winders are a godsend for those of us who are left-eye shooters.
38Deardorff
Well-known
Thank you....i've had one. Tom was a fine gentleman and Leica aficionado.
(fellow left-eye shooter...)
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Godfrey
somewhat colored
Yes, I had one of Tom's rapid winders an eon ago too. Always worked well, but I found I didn't use it much. I think I sold it along with the first M6TTL I had back in '99 or so.
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