lomography is killing me

Pherdinand

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this is getting crazy. Old, long-expired film prices are rising to almost equal the new film prices. All ads include lomography in the title, i guess that gives green light to goin' crazy with the price.
And i'm not speaking of dinosaurs like techpan or panatomic-x or other long gone rare items but simple tri-x or fp4+ - they ask 5 euros for a roll of expired roll of tri-x ...
Even old junky svema expired in 1990 cost 3+ euro (plus shipping from Ukraine) with zero guarantees of course.

No more deals unless you roll your own from bulk... and no more deals for medium format at all :(
 
Lomography is not about poor students in Austria using cheap film and dirt cheap lomo cameras anymore. Those guys are grown up and selling it for lazy hipsters.
You could still practice true lomography with lomo made Smena and Kodak Gold.
 
35mm Tr1-X in 36 exposure is $5.66 here in the US at Freestyle Photo, so I can't complain. It's not so bad over here.

It's funny, but Lomography has used Leica's strategy to market their products, but they flipped it. It's "cool" to have low fi crap gear if it's got a Lomography connection. It makes the hipsters happy I suppose, and they apparently have money to spend. The way it stands today, we got Leica holding down the dentist end of the market, Lomography's got the hipsters and people who just want to have fun w/ their photography, and us photographers still have Freestyle and KEH. Companies like Nikon, Canon, etc don't even exist anymore as far as I'm concerned because they don't make anything but digital cameras anymore. Less people selling in the film market will surely create higher prices.

Doesn't the EU put a lot of taxes and tariffs on imported photography stuff anyway? They're the cause of your film prices being so high even when you don't buy from Lomography. I'm not knocking the taxes. I would be more than happy to pay them if we got the benefits that most EU states provide for it's citizens. But we don't.
 
The only good deals about Lomography is the Color Neg film, which is about the cheapest one can get. Lomo 800 is quite below the price level of Portra 800 or Cinestill, the other options are on par or cheap as well.

Expired film, if it has to be on the bay, usually shipping just kills it. Not worth to hunt for ancient god knows where it has been. I've gotten OK deals with people selling "overstocked" film or recently expired, such as Portra.

Just buy fresh. 5€ gets you great Ilford film. If anything, bake it afterwards to get that Lomo effects :D


And of cameras... I was given a Holga that a friend got for 5€, as I forwarded the listing, but he ended up giving it to me after disliking the thing. I rather miss cheap cheap GP3 or such film for novelty use, although fomapan bought in bulk is rather cheap
 
Steve M. said:
Companies like Nikon, Canon, etc don't even exist anymore as far as I'm concerned because they don't make anything but digital cameras anymore.
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Oh, that's not true at all. Nikon still produces its flagship F6 camera at its Sendai factory in Japan, utilizing space that might otherwise be used for production of its Z cameras and D850 digitals. That the production space remains in use for the F6 speaks volumes as to Nikon's commitment to film photography, and to photographer's demand for a high-end film camera like the F6.

Let us not forget that Fujifilm sold ten million Instax cameras last year, a format that is not digital at all and remains a key part of Fujifilm's film sales. Fujifilm's presence at last year's Photokina was a revelation as they revealed new products, new paper and chemistry, new minilab equipment and of course their website ishootfujifilm.com, all of which points towards NEW film usage and not specifically geared to the "lomography" movement and the limited supply of expired film.

Cheers, Robert
 
I keep an eye out for eBay 20%-30% off + free shipping deals that come along occasionally. When that happens I stock up on fresh Ilford or Kodak film for my freezer. I agree about the prices now being asked for Lomo/expired film. In Australia film prices are high - main street camera stores ask AUD$20 for a roll of Tri-X or HP5+ 36exp. I've been getting it for under AUD$8.
 
lomo 800 film is superb. it's my favourite 800 film. i just bought a stash - dated 2022.
the box says made in USA

the solution to expensive out-dated film is buy fresh!
 
Filter Factor said:
Oh, that's not true at all. Nikon still produces its flagship F6 camera at its Sendai factory in Japan, utilizing space that might otherwise be used for production of its Z cameras and D850 digitals. That the production space remains in use for the F6 speaks volumes as to Nikon's commitment to film photography, and to photographer's demand for a high-end film camera like the F6.

Let us not forget that Fujifilm sold ten million Instax cameras last year, a format that is not digital at all and remains a key part of Fujifilm's film sales. Fujifilm's presence at last year's Photokina was a revelation as they revealed new products, new paper and chemistry, new minilab equipment and of course their website ishootfujifilm.com, all of which points towards NEW film usage and not specifically geared to the "lomography" movement and the limited supply of expired film.

Cheers, Robert
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The F6 is hardly a mainstream camera. Sales of this camera are extremely minute.



Fujifilm used to produce the excellent Klasse, Natura, and other high quality consumer grade cameras. All sadly discontinued now.
 
Oh those hipsters... Ruining everything. Maybe they use chrap plastic camera gear as it's fun? Just spitballing here.

There is still affordable film available buy it's not on ebay or in a Lomo/Holga box.

Argentix in Canada has plenty of affordable options up into 4x5.

For the record, I have a smena symbol, L-CA 120, Diana AND a beard!
 
Ted Striker said:
Fujifilm used to produce the excellent Klasse, Natura, and other high quality consumer grade cameras. All sadly discontinued now.
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The Klasse was intended from the very beginning to be a very limited production item, just 8,000 copies made and sold mainly in the Japanese home market. It was nearly unknown in much of the rest of the world and only with the recent resurgence of film among younger photographers has the Klasse become more well-known.


Cheers, Robert
 
Filter Factor said:
Oh, that's not true at all. Nikon still produces its flagship F6 camera at its Sendai factory in Japan, utilizing space that might otherwise be used for production of its Z cameras and D850 digitals. That the production space remains in use for the F6 speaks volumes as to Nikon's commitment to film photography, and to photographer's demand for a high-end film camera like the F6.

Cheers, Robert
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Oh, I don't quite know about that.
I am sure they sell it still, because they still have rows of unsold F6 cameras.


It is not that long ago, that Canon also "sold" their flagship, the 1v.


Once the warehouse is empty, you can bet your bottom dollar that Nikon will be finished with film-cameras as well.


Or do you have tangible information that they are actually producing brand spanking new F6 cameras?
 
Huss said:
Here you go, no mention of Lomo..

https://www.photrio.com/forum/threa...ed-films-for-sale-kodak-orwo-and-efke.167285/
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thanks, those were decent deals. I should subrscibe to 'photrio' maybe:)

Note i am not looking into doing lomography myself. I am just sometimes searching for a nice deal on outdated or shortdated film (i did pick up recently a 17m roll apx25 exp.2001...) esp. medium format, for work that does not need critical grain level, contrast, etc. and it annoys me that under 'lomography' sticker they try to pass on really old film for almost new price...

I remember times when passing by a large camera shop they had a basket with shortdated or recently outdated film rolls for 1-1.5 euro per roll ... now the best deal i found was 25e for 5 tri-x rolls half year outdated.
This TMY from Huss' link might be interesting if shipping from CAN doesn't kill the deal.
 
"Lazy Hipsters"?? I know quite a few hipsters, give them a break, they are working hard at it!
If there is any future in film photography it will have come from them.
 
"Lazy Hipsters" is just another way to denigrate someone you don't even know. Obviously if they are using that "cheap, crappy Lomo stuff" they must be beneath me.


Mostly BS and hogwash.
 
Lomography saved film photography. All you gotta do is check out their site:

https://www.lomography.com/

They promote all sorts of film useage and gear. Check out their magazine section.

No-one else in the industry does anything close to this. Not Leica, Nikon, Fuji (!), Kodak, Ilford etc.
So for all those trying to poke fun at hipsters, they are why we still have film.
 
There are the trust fund hipsters, mostly in New York City and San Francisco, I am told. They are said to use expensive Yashicas or Contaxes, or even Leicas.

Then there are the young hip and genuinely poor art students at my local school in a small economically struggling city and state far from Brooklyn or San Fran. They may have tattoos but they work second and third jobs as baristas and waiters and love film photography, which they often do with cameras under $50 or hand-me-downs.

Most of us on these forums don't really have a basis for denigrating the second type, and many of us would be on shaky ground denigrating the first type.
 
"trust fund hipsters"

Was there some sort of survey done? Are hipsters who live in one state/city prone to working harder than another states hipsters? Must one have a trust fund to be a hipster in New York? So many rules

The handful of folks I know, who live in NY and could be mistaken for a hipster in the wild, work multiple jobs just to afford rent.
 
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