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I was actually looking for some 9x12 film holders when I spotted this.

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and couldn't resist. It is just so small and cute. A 3 1/4 by 4 1/4. The most intrigueing thing is this

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with only two of the Kodak Plus X sheets exposed. I can't wait to shoot the rest and see what the first two sheets have on them. The shutter speeds need a little help. 1/100 and 1/50 sound OK, and T and B work correctly. Everything else is super slow.

Does anyone know if simple lighter fluid bath will work? Is this on clockwork gears, or one of those air shutters? Can I just unloosen the screw on the shutter speed setter or is it more complcated to get into?

Hoping for and thanks for any answers.
 
The dial-set Compurs are slightly different from the rim-set Compurs. Even so, it shouldn't be too difficult. But there will be disassembly involved. And the recollimation of the lens.

Nice score.
 
ZeissFan said:
The dial-set Compurs are slightly different from the rim-set Compurs. Even so, it shouldn't be too difficult. But there will be disassembly involved. And the recollimation of the lens.

Nice score.
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Rcollimation of the lens? That sounds like a lot of trouble or needing special equipment?
 
I can find nothing on the camera itself to give me a model. The buld film pack holder has the model number 667/2, and the seller listed it as a Zeiss Ikon Sirere 135/3. I don't know where he got that from. Here is a larger photo.

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Also, a little further investigation shows that the lens elements can be unscrewed both in front of and behind the shutter blades. I may try that and then see if I can get some lighter fluid into the shutter. I would prefer to open it up a little to do that though.

EDIT: I thought it would be a larger photo. I saved it as such in PS, but it seems the same. What do I need to do to make it larger?
 
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Is that a Zeiss Maximar? I have one and would also like to get it in working order to shoot.
 
Googling Zeiss Maximar, it seems they were all 9x12. This is a smaller 3 1/4 by 4 1/4. It does not have a sports finder either. But 9x12 are great fun; a very light "4x5" to carry and use.
 
oftheherd said:
Googling Zeiss Maximar, it seems they were all 9x12. This is a smaller 3 1/4 by 4 1/4. It does not have a sports finder either.
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Can't be a Maximar, as that was one of their top plate folders with double extension, Compur shutter and Tessar. As far as the stamp size pictures go, this one seems to be a very basic one, with single extension and bottom end lens and shutter. Sirene is no bad guess.

The Zeiss Ikon Sirene was made in 6.5x9, quarter plate and 9x12 format. However, this one does not have the central finder of the Sirene - it is offset to the right. It looks like the spitting image of a Volta, but I haven't ever head of a quarter plate Volta. Maybe these were made for export to some markets only (possibly with yet another name), or somebody patched up a broken Sirene with a Volta front standard.

Zeiss Ikon marked most cameras of that vintage on the leather strap only - the name or the xxx/x number should be there.

Sevo
 
chippy said:
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you may need to develop that film in a tray in the darkroom, they can be a bit flimsy going on a spool because they are thinner than normal sheet film...speaking of darkrooms oftheherd (N)...dont forget about the repair cost you were going to send me a while back..cheers Andrew
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I think you are right. I had already resigned myself to having to tray develop. Something I haven't done in over 30 years. I had considered trying to be gentle with it and tank develop since I have an adjustable tank, and using a stand method with Rodinal, since I don't kinow the age. Anyone have any experience with old film and stand development in Rodinal?

And I haven't forgotten the charge for the repair old buddy. Now that things are more back to normal I should have that in the mail this weekend. I also intend to send a couple of lenses: a 28mm and a preset 135mm. I am sure you have plenty of lenses for your daughter to use, and these are not great shakes, but pretty decent nonetheless. I thought it might be nice for her to have "her own" lenses for the 801. Cheers.
 
Dial-set Compurs are very easy to work on. The dial and faceplate of the shutter come off by removing just a few screws. More details on Dave Richert's site. (man, that is an annoying color hyperlink, the purple almost disappears on my screen) A few tiny dabs of ronsonol + exercise have always done the trick for me. the end of a toothpick dipped in gun oil in the right place is nice if you have it around. Just be sure to keep the blades dry and clean.
 
Proteus617 said:
Dial-set Compurs are very easy to work on. The dial and faceplate of the shutter come off by removing just a few screws. More details on Dave Richert's site. (man, that is an annoying color hyperlink, the purple almost disappears on my screen) A few tiny dabs of ronsonol + exercise have always done the trick for me. the end of a toothpick dipped in gun oil in the right place is nice if you have it around. Just be sure to keep the blades dry and clean.
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That is great! Thanks, just what I needed.
 
chippy said:
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anyways ,cheers for that, i shouldn't have mentioned it, but it occurred to me, i think i have had a bad year (getting old lol and health isnt what is used to be) ,a little cynical and grumpy perhaps, hopefully next year will be better all round
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Not at all. Hope the coming year gets better for you. When I develop the film, I may try just one sheet first to see how it goes, then adjust for the rest.

As to the shutter, I don't know. when I get into it, I will take a photo so those of you more expert can opine what it really is.
 
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