oldwino
Well-known
Is this in anticipation of the new M?
aizan
Veteran
that, and it's christmas time! good timing.
anyone noticed how few bessa r2a's are ever for sale?
anyone noticed how few bessa r2a's are ever for sale?
uhoh7
Veteran
They aren't giving them away LOL
dogberryjr
[Pithy phrase]
Truth. I would have expected the prices to come down a bit by now.
burancap
Veteran
Good for me.
probably,
Once M10 specs are announced,
all of the other digital M mount Leicas will probably take a hit on resale.
-- depending upon what the M10 actually turns out to be --
Stephen
ChrisLivsey
Veteran
Lots of M9s NOT for sale in the UK.
Indeed I cannot recall a time when so few are in the dealers very few 240s either. Have they all been snapped up by overseas buyers due to our recent currency drop perhaps?
Indeed I cannot recall a time when so few are in the dealers very few 240s either. Have they all been snapped up by overseas buyers due to our recent currency drop perhaps?
Richard G
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In some ways an M10 kills M9 sales. If you're one off the pace and think you must have the quieter, sharper, longer (battery life) latest in the Type 240/246 you might be tempted to 'upgrade' as many have. But when those cameras are relegated to a mere step on what is inevitabky not a sequence finishing soon, or ever, then the 240/6 loses its lustre. Then, like me, you reflect on the miracle of the M9 and the wonder of the original Monochrom, and you are quite content to sit with your current stable. Which, after all, consists of a lot of other superseded models, 10, 20, 60 and 80 years old and also all still in use and giving great satisfaction.
Hogarth Ferguson
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Nice that someone else has noticed this. Just r3 and r4 models.
I was just telling my friend that I hope the m9 price drops when the m10 comes out, I'd love one.
jarski
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Many M9 price drop hopes have been expressed here over the years (after this or that new camera coming to market). I remember this because I was one of those hopefuls 
M9 always held its price stubbornly well, and don't believe some dramatic change overnight.
M9 always held its price stubbornly well, and don't believe some dramatic change overnight.
user237428934
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The r2 is nothing special and these cameras are not really repairable. So you get the price equivalent of a burger for that and no one sells them. The r3 and r4 are special and you get a better price for it.
raid
Dad Photographer
When the M11 comes out, the price of the M10 will come down .... [this is the market]
gb hill
Veteran
The market doesn't seem to be working that way with the film Leica's. A beautiful M9P just sold in the classifieds for $2,700. there is another nice looking M9 around the same price range.
Then there is an M4P listed around $400 cheaper & an MP that seems to hold their prices well above any other Leica M ever produced, film or digital.
Not complaining just amazed how a film M camera holds their price.
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
I must have been missing something. Lots of missing on my side.
I checked M9 on e-bay. Dozen came. Four and half worth to open and look at. RFF Classifieds have what, three, four M9 on sale, with half of them as listed on ebay as well?
Where is this "lots of M9s for sale...." ?
I checked M9 on e-bay. Dozen came. Four and half worth to open and look at. RFF Classifieds have what, three, four M9 on sale, with half of them as listed on ebay as well?
Where is this "lots of M9s for sale...." ?
How many were purchased in the first place....
Can you explain this? $400 cheaper than what?
edge100
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Many M9 price drop hopes have been expressed here over the years (after this or that new camera coming to market). I remember this because I was one of those hopefuls
M9 always held its price stubbornly well, and don't believe some dramatic change overnight.
The M9, and its derivatives, are unique cameras, which are rather unlikely to be directly replaced by a new CCD-based Leica M. As such, depreciation is unlikely to affect them nearly as much as it has affected the M240 and derivates, since there's really nothing particularly special about those cameras (nice, though they may be).
I love my M-E, and would love to add an MM, but I have next to no interest in any current Leica M. The M10 may or may not change that.
brennanphotoguy
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The 5Dc prices held relatively well till the 5DIII came out. When the M10 comes out the prices will plummet as people look to move to the M240/262 generation of cameras from the M9 while the M240/262 owners who can afford it dump their cameras to move to the new model and M9 owners who have been holding out for something better than the M240.
edge100
Well-known
Again, the economics here are very similar to those affecting the M9. While Leica does still make a film M, an M4P or any other M takes the same lenses and the same film. There's simply no downward pressure on the cost of those bodies, and the best of them (the MP certainly counts among the best) will continue to demand high prices because, well, people want the best.
It also helps that the technology in the M4P (or any film M, really) hasn't been markedly improved upon in the M-A (for example). Yes, the M-A has a nicer VF and looks nice, but it doesn't fundamentally do anything that the M2 or M4 doesn't already do. The MP, one might argue, is actually the M with the best features of all; meter, improved VF, brass internals.
Anyway, there's a good reason why film M's hold their price; there's nothing else like them.
nobbylon
Veteran
Lots of M9's for sale,
If a lot is 3 or 4 in the last month or so then yes but it's hardly an off load. I prefer the M9 sensor as do plenty of others and I don't see prices dropping by much on the release of any new M.
If a lot is 3 or 4 in the last month or so then yes but it's hardly an off load. I prefer the M9 sensor as do plenty of others and I don't see prices dropping by much on the release of any new M.