mojobebop
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Does anyone know if
bulk loading film cassettes fit
in the m7?
bulk loading film cassettes fit
in the m7?
m7-bulk film cassettes
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peter_n
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I've used bulk cassettes and regular cassettes with bulk film in M7s and they both "fit". I add a label to the outside of each cassette and if you have a mechanical DX reader the fit can be a wee bit on the tight side so it can be a little annoying to get the cassette out. With an optical DX reader the cassette goes in and out very easily.
mojobebop
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thanks, that's what i wanted to know before i purchase film/cassettes.
the 'reader' you refer to is the update in the camera?
oh, also...what are the best type of cassettes. i see the usual ones available that i used to use w/nikons. can't find kodak anymore.
rlouzan
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Not the Leica type cassettes.
peter_n
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Right not the Leica type ones. I've used plastic ones that I got from either Adorama or B&H, they work OK and if you're wearing cargo pants through customs you can just "wear" them so no x-ray... 😉 Normally I use cast-offs from a local photo lab.
The optical DX reader is now standard in new M7 bodies but Leica will upgrade for you if you whine enough. It has to be done in Solms.
The optical DX reader is now standard in new M7 bodies but Leica will upgrade for you if you whine enough. It has to be done in Solms.
Benjamin
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Best Cassettes?
Best Cassettes?
The Leica ones won't work with an M7, or they are not best? Not that I own an M7, so it doesn't make much difference to myself but what are the best type of or brand of reloadable cassettes?
I know Leica made two versions right, the ones for LTM cameras and the IXMOO. I think Tom A use the latter, so I had previously assumed that they were probably pretty good. They seem pretty expensive anyhow, seems like brass cassettes could diminish the saving made in loading your film. Though maybe there is a better place to them than eBay?
Good luck with your bulk loading anyway Mojobebop!
Benjamin
Best Cassettes?
The Leica ones won't work with an M7, or they are not best? Not that I own an M7, so it doesn't make much difference to myself but what are the best type of or brand of reloadable cassettes?
I know Leica made two versions right, the ones for LTM cameras and the IXMOO. I think Tom A use the latter, so I had previously assumed that they were probably pretty good. They seem pretty expensive anyhow, seems like brass cassettes could diminish the saving made in loading your film. Though maybe there is a better place to them than eBay?
Good luck with your bulk loading anyway Mojobebop!
Benjamin
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Tom A
RFF Sponsor
Dont use the IXMOO cassettes in a M7! They will tear out the DX code readers in the film cavity! The base plate also lacks the opening/closing catch for them.
regular plastic cassettes work fine though and also the "snap-cap" version.
I think the DX reader reads it as 100 iso unless you over ride it though.
regular plastic cassettes work fine though and also the "snap-cap" version.
I think the DX reader reads it as 100 iso unless you over ride it though.
Al Kaplan
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D0on't throw out your IXMOO cassettes! Give them to somebody who still uses a seperate meter!
Tom A
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Al, you are so right. NEVER throw out the IXMOO cassettes. I use them all the times in M2/M3/M4 and in the earlier M6's.
I once was horrified when I found out that a lab, who was disposing of their Leica Reprovit II told me that , "Oh, those brass cassettes. We did not think that anyone used them anymore and throw the in the landfill" Of course I asked "How many". "Oh, a couple of hundred of them!". Hope they are sleepless still after I told them what they are worth. Considerably more than the Reprovit anyway!
I once was horrified when I found out that a lab, who was disposing of their Leica Reprovit II told me that , "Oh, those brass cassettes. We did not think that anyone used them anymore and throw the in the landfill" Of course I asked "How many". "Oh, a couple of hundred of them!". Hope they are sleepless still after I told them what they are worth. Considerably more than the Reprovit anyway!
Al Kaplan
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NEVER throw anything away! I've already explained to my son that when I go to the Great darkroom in the sky he should list everything seperately. Camera bodies, lenses, hoods, caps, cases, boxes, instruction books, M adapters, filters, and so on. EVERYTHING seperate!!!! After checking some current prices he's convinced. The last six IXMOO cassettes that I got were a buck each at a yard sale a couple of years ago.
Benjamin
Registered Snoozer
Dear Al Kaplan and Tom A,
Where on earth is the best place to buy IXMOO cassettes? I literally can't find them anywhere other than eBay where they're all listed individually for £20 each or something crazy.
Any advice on the matter would be greatly appreciated.
Benjamin
P.s, I have an M2, so life is fine.
Where on earth is the best place to buy IXMOO cassettes? I literally can't find them anywhere other than eBay where they're all listed individually for £20 each or something crazy.
Any advice on the matter would be greatly appreciated.
Benjamin
P.s, I have an M2, so life is fine.
colker
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why not buy regular, new film in the box? you are spending major $$$ on an M7 and saving w/ bulk film? 😱
Tom A
RFF Sponsor
Colker, there are several reasons for bulk loading. Cost is a factor - i shoot 5-600 rolls/year of bl/w. Using bulkrolls, each roll cost between $1,75-2,25 - buying in stores they are are anywhere from $6 and up! Do the math!
With bulkfilm I also have access to a much more varied filmstock. Kodak's XX, Tech-Pan (still have 800 ft of it in the freezer), more oddball films like Agfa Scopix X-ray stock ( a friend gave me 1200 ft of it).
Bulkfilm takes up much less space when stored. I can fit 3000 ft of Tri X in the door of the freezer - and if that was "ready rolled" it would be 500+ rolls and fill the rest of the frezer (which holds another 10-12000 ft of film, mainly Kodak XX in 400ft cans).
Benjamin, finding IXMOO's it getting difficult. Go to camera swap meets and also tell the stores you deal with that you are on the lookout for them.
You need about 18 for a 100ft can of film. Also check surplus sales from hospitals, laboratories and the military. It is one of those objects that usually languishes in a box somewhere and nobody knows what it is and have no idea of the value to shooters.
I have accumulated pretty close to 200 of them over the years - most picked up at surplus sales, swapmeets and a lot of them have been given to me. 200 is about enough for 1000 ft of XX (and a very long and boring evening in the darkroom loading them).
With bulkfilm I also have access to a much more varied filmstock. Kodak's XX, Tech-Pan (still have 800 ft of it in the freezer), more oddball films like Agfa Scopix X-ray stock ( a friend gave me 1200 ft of it).
Bulkfilm takes up much less space when stored. I can fit 3000 ft of Tri X in the door of the freezer - and if that was "ready rolled" it would be 500+ rolls and fill the rest of the frezer (which holds another 10-12000 ft of film, mainly Kodak XX in 400ft cans).
Benjamin, finding IXMOO's it getting difficult. Go to camera swap meets and also tell the stores you deal with that you are on the lookout for them.
You need about 18 for a 100ft can of film. Also check surplus sales from hospitals, laboratories and the military. It is one of those objects that usually languishes in a box somewhere and nobody knows what it is and have no idea of the value to shooters.
I have accumulated pretty close to 200 of them over the years - most picked up at surplus sales, swapmeets and a lot of them have been given to me. 200 is about enough for 1000 ft of XX (and a very long and boring evening in the darkroom loading them).
Al Kaplan
Veteran
I get mine from estate sales. My ex is in the antique business so I know lots of dealers. Some of them do what's called a "buy out" or "clean out", where somebody dies or goes into a nursing home and the family is happy just taking a flat price for everything, antiques, art work, cameras, furniture, kitchen stuff, and so on rather than trying to maximize the money by selling it themselves. A few of these dealers call me when there's camera stuff involved. I'll tell them about what to expect to get on ebay, shoot some digital pix with their camera showing the features of the item, and write up the descriptions in exchange for 10% of the proceeds, but I usually get to keep a few small items also, such as IXMOO's. It pays to stay friendly with the ex.
I don't have anywhere near as many IXMOO's as Tom. I usually load about 20 at a time, and I load some snap-cap cassettes as well to use in the Bessa L. I'd go nuts standing in the darkroom loading a couple of 400 foot rolls of Double-X at one time.
I don't have anywhere near as many IXMOO's as Tom. I usually load about 20 at a time, and I load some snap-cap cassettes as well to use in the Bessa L. I'd go nuts standing in the darkroom loading a couple of 400 foot rolls of Double-X at one time.
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Benjamin
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Thanks for the advice, I shall indeed keep an eye out.
All the best, Benjamin
All the best, Benjamin
Fotohuis
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I am using old type Fomapan cassettes for bulk loading. They are DX coded (100-200-400) and you can use them several times before they are really bend and gives a problem. You can easily open the cassette without damage with your finger nails.
I have several cameras for bulk loading them, also a Leica M7. I have the mechanical DX reader and so far no problem with it.
Best regards,
Robert
I have several cameras for bulk loading them, also a Leica M7. I have the mechanical DX reader and so far no problem with it.
Best regards,
Robert
zerobuttons
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How about Shirley-Wellard cassettes - is anyone here using them? I have acquired a few and even the original Shirley-Wellard film loading device, but I haven´t gotten around to try them out yet.
I would be interested in hearing about how they behave in practical use - and if they would be usable at all with modern cameras. I have a Konica Hexar RF and plan on getting a Leica MP.
Thanks in advance.
I would be interested in hearing about how they behave in practical use - and if they would be usable at all with modern cameras. I have a Konica Hexar RF and plan on getting a Leica MP.
Thanks in advance.
danwilly
Established
Freestyle sells snap cap cassettes that are coded for 200 and 400.
