kshapero
South Florida Man
Used mint m7 or new ZM?
Krosya
Konicaze
Wasnt this done/asked here, like 2000000000000000 times?
b.espahbod
Optophile
this is 2000000000000001st
but whatever you like
but whatever you like
rxmd
May contain traces of nut
Yes, but not yet by everybody. (Courtesy of Karl Valentin.)
Also I like the "why?" in the poll question, as if I could do anything else except clicking on one of the two options.
astroman
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Ziess Ikon,why because I own one
And lets be nice people
And lets be nice people
35mmdelux
Veni, vidi, vici
I comes down to two items: 1) the industrial construction of the M7, and 2) affordability.
My choice M7.
My choice M7.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
M7 ... because I'm a born again Leica snob! 
helen.HH
To Light & Love ...
lewis44
Well-known
M7.... Owned two and neither one had a problem. Took a Lickin' and kept on Tickin'
aizan
Veteran
whichever one looks the best with the lenses you have or want to get. =)
hiromu
Established
If you shoot with AE, go with ZI as M7's compensation is not easiest to use. If you expose manually, then go with M6.
bennyng
Benny Ng
I have both ZI and M7. I will always pick the ZI over the M7 as it handles much better, has cleaner framelines and a fantastic viewfinder. AE is a breeze too.
Cheers,
Cheers,
calexg
Established
For the record, I have never touched either. Having said that, I would go the Zeiss Ikon.
Why?
Because it has a brighter viewfinder. Because the way you adjust exposure compensation is genius. Because it's smaller and lighter. Because the rangefinder baselength is longer.
I bought my M4-2 because I wanted something tough and manual--no electronics whatsoever. I use the camera to take pictures of things that give me time to think about exposure. If I wanted to shoot candids or street shots, I would probably go for a camera with AE--something small, lightweight, and inconspicuous. It would be the Zeiss Ikon, for sure. It costs less, and I don't care that it's not as heavy-duty as the M7 because I don't see myself ever treating it poorly (that's what the M4-2 is for!).
Just my 2¢.
Why?
Because it has a brighter viewfinder. Because the way you adjust exposure compensation is genius. Because it's smaller and lighter. Because the rangefinder baselength is longer.
I bought my M4-2 because I wanted something tough and manual--no electronics whatsoever. I use the camera to take pictures of things that give me time to think about exposure. If I wanted to shoot candids or street shots, I would probably go for a camera with AE--something small, lightweight, and inconspicuous. It would be the Zeiss Ikon, for sure. It costs less, and I don't care that it's not as heavy-duty as the M7 because I don't see myself ever treating it poorly (that's what the M4-2 is for!).
Just my 2¢.
Avotius
Some guy
for sure my choice would be the m7 because I have had the experience of 3 ZI's that had serious enough "must return" defects out of the box. I also prefer the shutter speed readout on the m7.
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maddoc
... likes film again.
I have neither owned an M7 nor an ZI but played with both of them, the M7 had the better exposure info and much clearer rangefinder patch, the ZI has easier to see 28mm frame lines (wearing glasses). Since a clear and contrasty RF patch is more important for me than frame lines, I would buy the M7 if I had to choose between them.
On th eother hand, best value for the money is still the Hexar RF, IMHO.
On th eother hand, best value for the money is still the Hexar RF, IMHO.
calexg
Established
Good point. OP: I'd consider the Hexar as well.
35mmdelux
Veni, vidi, vici
The .58 mag black M7 I shoot with is seriously unbelievable for the 35mm framelines. The AE makes shooting a piece of cake and the exp comp couldn't be easier (slight twist of the wheel) AFAIK.
matt335
Well-known
get both
get both
If you go the M7 then you can probably afford the Ikon as well. Last week I held both cameras in my hands helping a friend make similar decision, and looked very closely at them both. The Ikon is a top little camera. I would actually prefer a M6TTL. It's also about "how it feels in your hands" and how "easily you bring it to your eye and grab an image". I think you will find that a M7 will last longer. Good luck with your decision. Getting a Leica is a lifetime decision. A friend for life.
get both
If you go the M7 then you can probably afford the Ikon as well. Last week I held both cameras in my hands helping a friend make similar decision, and looked very closely at them both. The Ikon is a top little camera. I would actually prefer a M6TTL. It's also about "how it feels in your hands" and how "easily you bring it to your eye and grab an image". I think you will find that a M7 will last longer. Good luck with your decision. Getting a Leica is a lifetime decision. A friend for life.
drewbarb
picnic like it's 1999
Never owned either one, but I've handled and looked through both.
Issues can crop up with any camera- and there are documented potential issues with each of these; but having read some about the subject, and talked with and listened to owners of both, I'd spend my money on a ZI first.
Reasons I'll cite are the faster flash sync and better (bigger, brighter, more flare resistant) finder- as well as the fact that I already have M3's, which will remain my primary 35mm shooters for now.
Issues can crop up with any camera- and there are documented potential issues with each of these; but having read some about the subject, and talked with and listened to owners of both, I'd spend my money on a ZI first.
Reasons I'll cite are the faster flash sync and better (bigger, brighter, more flare resistant) finder- as well as the fact that I already have M3's, which will remain my primary 35mm shooters for now.
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Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
Interesting that the two choices are running virtually neck and neck ... I started a similar poll about a year ago and the Ikon was a decisive winner.
I subsequently went on to sell my M7 and buy an Ikon and have no regrets ... in very low light shooting the Zeiss has no peer IMO. I do miss the feel of the M7 but would never buy another one as there were a couple of things about it that bothered me ... now and then though I do get overpowering urges to own a black paint MP!
I subsequently went on to sell my M7 and buy an Ikon and have no regrets ... in very low light shooting the Zeiss has no peer IMO. I do miss the feel of the M7 but would never buy another one as there were a couple of things about it that bothered me ... now and then though I do get overpowering urges to own a black paint MP!