M8.2 on sale at Popflash!

zwicko said:
Just buy 6295 of them and get one free! Now that´s a pretty amazing deal... ;)
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Hmmm...sounds like a Facebook ad! But unfortunately your arithmetic is a bit off. It's just a penny saved, not a dollar, so you'd have to buy 629,500 of them to get one free. I'm sure that would make Leica very happy and you'd go down in Leica history for ever.

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i find it amazing that people will pay in excess of $5,000 for a camera with anything less than a full frame sensor just because it bears the leica name. You could buy a canon 5D MK2, leica R lenses and a leica R to canon eos adapter and still save over one thousand dollars. If leica slapped their name on a camera phone they could probably sell it for $3,000.
 
felix5616 said:
i find it amazing that people will pay in excess of $5,000 for a camera with anything less than a full frame sensor just because it bears the leica name. You could buy a canon 5D MK2, leica R lenses and a leica R to canon eos adapter and still save over one thousand dollars. If leica slapped their name on a camera phone they could probably sell it for $3,000.
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Some of us do not want a auto-giz space shuttle of a camera that can do ISO XX,000 at 21 megapixels... Some of us want a RANGEFINDER (Hence this forum) camera that has digital output... As for the price - this is a hand made niche product... The Harley Davidson of cameras..
 
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despite being hand made its still overpriced and over-hyped taking advantage of the range finder mystique. at its price point it should have a full frame sensor with a large pixel area. there is no excuse for less than a full frame sensor in a $6000 camera. Unlike the film range finder cameras this digital range finder does not have the same complexity of manufacture as the leica film camera, the mechanical complexity has simply been replaced with electronic circuits. the price reflects leicas research and development costs passed on to the extremely limited number of buyers willing to shell out money simply to belong to an exclusive " look what i can afford" club.
 
felix5616 said:
despite being hand made its still overpriced and over-hyped taking advantage of the range finder mystique. at its price point it should have a full frame sensor with a large pixel area. there is no excuse for less than a full frame sensor in a $6000 camera. Unlike the film range finder cameras this digital range finder does not have the same complexity of manufacture as the leica film camera, the mechanical complexity has simply been replaced with electronic circuits. the price reflects leicas research and development costs passed on to the extremely limited number of buyers willing to shell out money simply to belong to an exclusive " look what i can afford" club.
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So speaks someone who obviously has NO IDEA about the complexity of the M format camera, lenses and the ability to render acceptable images on a "full frame" sensor. Even a modicum of searching on the web will explain ad-nauseum why you can't just slap a full sensor in an M8 and get acceptable images from it at the edges of the frame. That's basic optics & physics and not necessarily a failing of Leica - if they felt they could pull it off using the dimensions of the M series lenses then they would have done. Really. Until sensor technology improves so that light tavelling into a photo-sensor can be handled at very oblique angles without loss or distortion, we're stuck at an impasse.

As regards camera complexity, what exactly do think is different about the shutter, meter and rangefinder of an M8 vs a M7/M6TTL or other recent M camera? In essence, nothing. Sure a completely mechanical camera like an MP has more complexity but that's not what we're comparing to here. Also, the film portion of the camera is very simple compared to the electronics and external components of the M8.

felix5616 said:
the price reflects leicas research and development costs passed on to the extremely limited number of buyers willing to shell out money simply to belong to an exclusive "look what i can afford" club.
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As we say in England ... What utter b**lox! :bang:
 
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sfokevin said:
Some of us do not want a auto-giz space shuttle of a camera that can do ISO XX,000 at 21 megapixels... Some of us want a RANGEFINDER (Hence this forum) camera that has digital output... As for the price - this is a hand made niche product... The Harley Davidson of cameras..
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Hmm, I would not say that Leica is equal to Harley Davidson. To me a BMW would be a better comparison. To my ears Harleys are just too loud! A BMW can sneak up on you, just like a rangefinder.:)
 
B**lox = the politically correct American spelling. The true spelling of "Bollocks", as in, "what a load of bollocks" might offend someone. Hopefully the one that I directed it at. :)
 
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