M8 Prototype Grip Up at Rapidwinder.com

HAnkg said:
Does the grip baseplate replace the Leica baseplate or is it added on top of it?
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Good Evening Hank,

it is added on the top.

FYI I have just enclosed some explanatory notes to the
3D-drawings at

www.rapidwinder.com

regarding planned timing and other details.

I hope these notes will answer the questions I have received
so far.

I will add information to the website as we go along.


Best,
Tom A

Tom Abrahamsson
Vancouver, BC
Canada
www.rapidwinder.com



http://www.rapidwinder.com
 
Gabriel M.A. said:
I'd go and check with your optometrist, that's a serious condition if you see magenta there :eek:
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Must be reddotitis solmsensis.

Another useful option for the grip would be a inbuilt case for the various IR filters, wouldn't it?

Didier
 
What I don't like about it is that it is likely to make the M8 a whole lot bulkier, like the older Rapidgrips. The camera will looks like a DSLR with it and probably feel like one, too, specially since the grip is meant for bigger lenses.

Also, with the ribbed design all sorts of gunk will probably collect inside the grip.

Philipp
 
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Well I really like my Leica grip- not bulky and matches the finish of my M8 perfectly. Also it replaces the M8's standard bottom plate so it keeps the weight down. I really can't complain.
 
Hello Mr Abrahamsson

It would be nice to have a tripod socket in the same place as the M2, M3, M4, M6 and M7, etc .... so that the Leica lens carrier accessory could be used.

I find this to be the most useful accessory Leica makes when used on my M6. It not only is tremendously handy for carrying a second lens ( no bag required ), but gives additional weight and gripping point so that I can handhold at very slow speeds quite easily.The older lens carrier cannot be used on the M8 because of the repositioning of the tripod socket to the centre on that camera. Leica have not said they will be making a lens carrier for the M8.

Perhaps you could make a new type of carrier which fits on the bottom of your new M8 grip, or, indeed the leica M8 grip where the tripod hole is central.... detachable of course .... or put an extra tripod socket hole in your new grip so the existing Leica lens carrier could be used.

Also, neither the Leica M8 grip, nor the standard M8 baseplate, has the tripod socket aligned with the lens axis. It would be great if yours could .... for easy stitching/panoramas when used on a tripod. I do not understand why Leica did not do this in their original design for the M8.

Hope this gives some constructive food for thought.
 
Hank,

The Bauhaus did utilize a form follows function principal but that did not yield to the use of pure geometric forms in a balanced relationship. If it was simply form follows function, the M body would not look like it does at all. Instead, it has a deliberately and strictly geometric form comprising a rectangular parallelpiped with half-circular cylinders added to opposite ends. The M winder design follows these design ques by simply using a circular cylinder for the grip.

This prototype grip is more organic in shape and would look good strapped to the Terminator. It certainly looks like it was created by a different designer or designers than of the M body and does not do justice to the elegant design of the M body.
 
I don't own an M8 so I really have no need for this grip. But if I could interject for a moment. What you are doing is really cool. Leica cameras have always facinated me and one day I hope to own one.
 
Slot for wrist/neck strap

Slot for wrist/neck strap

Tom,

How about adding a slot at the bottom of the plate below the handgrip so that it would be possible to attach a wrist strap to the camera using that slot and the eyelet on the camera. Alternately, this slot could be used to attach the neck strap so that the camera would hang vertically rather than horizonally.

Thanks,

Stan
 
;) :D
Benny Boy said:
Hank,

The Bauhaus did utilize a form follows function principal but that did not yield to the use of pure geometric forms in a balanced relationship. If it was simply form follows function, the M body would not look like it does at all. Instead, it has a deliberately and strictly geometric form comprising a rectangular parallel-piped with half-circular cylinders added to opposite ends. The M winder design follows these design queues by simply using a circular cylinder for the grip.

This prototype grip is more organic in shape and would look good strapped to the Terminator. It certainly looks like it was created by a different designer or designers than of the M body and does not do justice to the elegant design of the M body.
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What Benny said.


Tom, I love your Rapidwinder and the softrelease, but I have to admit that I'm not too crazy about the ribbed handle on the grip.

Benny gives a very good explanation why the ribbed handle clashes aesthetically with the shape and design principles of the M body.

It sort of makes the M8 look a little mismatched, like a tuxedo with brown shoes... Nothing wrong with either on it's own, but together... :)

Cheers,


HL
 
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Is there some patent restrictions that don't allow the replacement of the Leica bottom plate? That really saddles the design of any 3rd party grip with a big design drawback right out of the box.
 
Might I point out that on a black Leica, the ribbed design will look far less obtrusive when the brass shown in the drawing is painted black like the camera? I don't know how the ribs would look with a chrome body where the vulcanite shows through the ribs, but for black, it ought to blend in well.

Grips are a very personal thing. Some people will like one kind, some will like others. Depends on the size of your hands, what lenses you use, your aesthetic sense, and occasionally, the phase of the moon.

To me, the (film) RapidGrip looks and feels big on an M. But it is very comfortable and stable, especially for someone with large hands. It's really good with heavy lenses like the Noct, 90/2 Summicrons, 75/1.4 Summilux.

The Leica grip for film M's matches smaller lenses better, but is less comfortable than Tom's.

--Peter
 
The ribbed design will also trap a lot of dirt and grease inside the rib slots.. Imagine having a coffee+biscuit with your M8 and then having all the crumbs inside the grip..
 
ywenz said:
The ribbed design will also trap a lot of dirt and grease inside the rib slots.. Imagine having a coffee+biscuit with your M8 and then having all the crumbs inside the grip..
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Then imagine taking a macro shot of the aftermath for the notorious camera and coffee section on this site :eek:
 
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Every one is complaining about the "ribbed" handle. It will save some weight. If it gets dirty just clean it is all. I don't see any one else making a grip fro the M8. If you don't like it don't buy it. If you want to change it well, add some constructive comments.

I like the design myself, I think it is innovative and a step away from traditional accessories. I think a dove tail could be put into the design, a thicker base plate could be done and hollowed out to lower the over all weight.

Also as a side note, a solid grip could easily be done to, for thoes that don't like the skelatonized look.
 
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The design of my M8 grip follows my philosophy of making something that works well and is built to last. The Leica grips, both the standard M grip and the M8 grip have a flaw and a serious one at that. There is no "lip" at the top to prevent it from sliding out of your hand! I find that critical, both when holding the camera and when hauling it out of the shoulder bag. The grip should be solid enough that you can safely lift the camera and a heavy lens by the grip only!
As for biscotti crumbs accumulating in the grip - highly unlikely as they would escape through the same slots or you can carefully shake the camera over the piazza and feed the birds.
To my knowledge there is no "patent" for the regular baseplate of a M8, but I also wanted to add the SD card storage and have the grip's full base serve as a protective surface for the base plate.
To the comment that it looked like a dildo I will only say *please remove it from the M8 first*!
All the best for now,
Tom A

Tom Abrahamsson
Vancouver, BC
Canada
www.rapidwinder.com
 
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