kasey
Member
Test shoot with this new lens......all exposure was set to -2/3 f-stop
A bit hand shaking for the first shot....
So.....how is this lens ?
A bit hand shaking for the first shot....
So.....how is this lens ?
Avotius
Some guy
Its a good lens, mine is great, I think that there is a lot of potential to be had from it. Hard to say from your samples, also only two of the images are showing for me, but I think you got a good setup there and I hope you shoot the heck out of it.
Rogier
Rogier Willems
I am not ovely impressed with the sharpness.
Perhaps due to the fact that more than one immage suffers from handshake?
Take a look at the last immage while the blue shield shiels is in the same pane of focus. I the smaller fonts don't appear to be sharp.
I look forward to more shots since I am saving for the 35mm from Zeiss...
Perhaps due to the fact that more than one immage suffers from handshake?
Take a look at the last immage while the blue shield shiels is in the same pane of focus. I the smaller fonts don't appear to be sharp.
I look forward to more shots since I am saving for the 35mm from Zeiss...
kasey
Member
Well, thank you all for the comments .
If the set up is ok, then I'm happy.
I always shoot with hand held and shutter speed set with 1/15 sec. or below.
Maybe I will try shoot some with 1/60 sec. for Rogier.
If the set up is ok, then I'm happy.
I always shoot with hand held and shutter speed set with 1/15 sec. or below.
Maybe I will try shoot some with 1/60 sec. for Rogier.
bottley1
only to feel
1/15 sec is too slow for the M8 and that lens, also the dreaded purple pants have reared their ugly heads again!
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
I do not agree. 1/15th is perfectly adequate for a 28 on the M8. Especially if your style is to symbolize movement in passersby. It is not the right speed to test sharpness, that I agree. That shoud be done on a strurdy tripod using a cable release, regardless of shutterspeed.
jky
Well-known
It's become my standard lens on the M8 and I find it pretty darn sharp at all apertures. Handles well on the M8, but I personally would have preferred either a focus tab or non at all. The little nubbin' it has on the focus ring take some getting used to.
squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
Yeah, don't consider 1/15 shots a reasonable sharpness test. This lens is plenty sharp and a pleasure to use. I've been using it, with great success, on the R-D1.
Incidentally, I think those pics would look even better in B&W.
Incidentally, I think those pics would look even better in B&W.
kasey
Member
Revisit .....better ? shoud be 1/45sec at F5.6 or F8
Full open at F2.8, 1/24sec. hand held , focus at lower left paper bag.
Full open at F2.8 1/60sec. hand held.
All -2/3 F stop.
I love this M8 and Biogon 28MM......next I was thinking about Summilux 50mm.....or Sonnar is better ??
Full open at F2.8, 1/24sec. hand held , focus at lower left paper bag.
Full open at F2.8 1/60sec. hand held.
All -2/3 F stop.
I love this M8 and Biogon 28MM......next I was thinking about Summilux 50mm.....or Sonnar is better ??
baycrest
Established
My copy of the Biogon is extremely sharp corner to corner.
But as mentioned it doesn't come out in your photos at due to the slow shutter speed. As a generalization the 28 and 35 Zeiss to be have higher contrast than the recent luxes or crons.
It would have been even nicer if Zeiss could have made a 28 f2 and 35 f1.4...
Best Rob
But as mentioned it doesn't come out in your photos at due to the slow shutter speed. As a generalization the 28 and 35 Zeiss to be have higher contrast than the recent luxes or crons.
It would have been even nicer if Zeiss could have made a 28 f2 and 35 f1.4...
Best Rob
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
CV Nokton 35/1.2?
Rogier
Rogier Willems
Thanks for re-shooting!
Still I am wandering about the fact that everything outside the center seems to be out of focus.
See the last image of the styrofoam boxes. They are all at the same distance but to me only the ones left of the middle are sharp the rest look soft to me.
What's up?
Am I wrong?
I sure hope so since I have my mind set on purchasing Zeiss lenses myself...
Still I am wandering about the fact that everything outside the center seems to be out of focus.
See the last image of the styrofoam boxes. They are all at the same distance but to me only the ones left of the middle are sharp the rest look soft to me.
What's up?
Am I wrong?
I sure hope so since I have my mind set on purchasing Zeiss lenses myself...
Dektol Dan
Well-known
Something must be wrong methinks
Something must be wrong methinks
Here's a shot that's hand held and that must have been close to wide open at a 1/60th. It's indoors with Porta 160.
My first impression is that I surely won't be buying an M8 anytime in the near future. I have complete faith in the 28 Biogon. Your shots look like mud to me.
Something must be wrong methinks
Here's a shot that's hand held and that must have been close to wide open at a 1/60th. It's indoors with Porta 160.
My first impression is that I surely won't be buying an M8 anytime in the near future. I have complete faith in the 28 Biogon. Your shots look like mud to me.
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jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
Yeah, a real muddy camera...
Really! That kind of thing has everything to do with post-processing, and nothing with the camera. I can make any film shot look like s**t without trying.
Really!
That kind of thing has everything to do with post-processing, and nothing with the camera. I can make any film shot look like s**t without trying.
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kasey
Member
Rogier maybe I know why it isn't sharp.....because I do not have any software that can open the DNG and save it to jpg,
so I just open it with Mac's Preview, resize to fit the monitor then do a screen shot...........
Now here are the screen shoot of DNG file in biggest size in various portion from the 1st picture of 2nd time 's posting.
Maybe I will post more after I install the editing software that came with M8.
so I just open it with Mac's Preview, resize to fit the monitor then do a screen shot...........
Now here are the screen shoot of DNG file in biggest size in various portion from the 1st picture of 2nd time 's posting.
Maybe I will post more after I install the editing software that came with M8.
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oscroft
Veteran
Hi Kasey,
I hope you don't mind if I ignore all talk of the 28 Biogon and its technical quality (because you really can't tell from small web photos at slow shutter speeds).
Instead, I'd just like so say how much I like your photos - your use of slow speeds really does capture the feeling of your scenes.
The one of the guitarist is wonderful - it captures the feel of people passing him by as if he isn't there.
I hope you don't mind if I ignore all talk of the 28 Biogon and its technical quality (because you really can't tell from small web photos at slow shutter speeds).
Instead, I'd just like so say how much I like your photos - your use of slow speeds really does capture the feeling of your scenes.
The one of the guitarist is wonderful - it captures the feel of people passing him by as if he isn't there.
Rogier
Rogier Willems
Kasey,
I only now saw that you put these images up for me
Thanks!!!!
Indeed this looks much better.
I only now saw that you put these images up for me
Thanks!!!!
Indeed this looks much better.
kasey
Member
Thank you oscroft , any discussion with my pictures is ok with me.
Actually I like this kind of slow shutter speed shooting style .
Cheers !
Actually I like this kind of slow shutter speed shooting style .
Cheers !
kasey
Member
Today I shot some close distance pictures, and found out that the M8 can only focus at object which is at about 0.6 meters.
But the Distance marking on Biogon 28 mm can go to 0.5 meters.......
But the Distance marking on Biogon 28 mm can go to 0.5 meters.......
kasey
Member
Today's close up shooting.....screen shot with OS X preview....
F2.8 , distance at about 0.6 meter .............
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Focus on the new born leaf..... aperture at F4
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aperture set between F2.8 and F4
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F2.8 , distance at about 0.6 meter .............
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Focus on the new born leaf..... aperture at F4
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aperture set between F2.8 and F4
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