yanidel
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First picture with M9 and 35mm Lux Asph. Click on link in article to see unprocessed full size picture (slightly compressed)
http://blog.yanidel.com/2009/09/09/leica-m9-launch-today-sample-picture/
http://blog.yanidel.com/2009/09/09/leica-m9-launch-today-sample-picture/
Pickett Wilson
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What's with the funky bokeh in this photo. I've seen it in several photos from the M9 so far. Does this lens normally have this kind of bokeh?
CK Dexter Haven
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Thanks for this.
Did you use Exposure on the image?
Have any others?
Did you use Exposure on the image?
Have any others?
yanidel
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Aperture priority. I have a few other shots but not taken in good situation so will me misleading. A few impressions :
- 1250 very clean
- 2500 decent and usable, loss of sharpness might be significant though. -
- there is potentially a 2 stops gain vs M8 unless you are after perfection. And using the 35mm Lux Asph instead of 24mm Elmarit I will get a lot more speed for low light.
- the lens manual selection menu is a wonderful addition and works perfect.
- with lens detection off, there is a lot of vignetting at F1.4.
- as for the bokeh, I don't know, never seen how it looked on FF.
- skin tones much improved. Out of camera DNG more punchy in terms of colors.
- shutter noise, better than M8 but not that much.
- exposure compensation can be changed by turning wheel and without half pressing the shutter. It exp comp interval is shown in the viewfinder.
- 1250 very clean
- 2500 decent and usable, loss of sharpness might be significant though. -
- there is potentially a 2 stops gain vs M8 unless you are after perfection. And using the 35mm Lux Asph instead of 24mm Elmarit I will get a lot more speed for low light.
- the lens manual selection menu is a wonderful addition and works perfect.
- with lens detection off, there is a lot of vignetting at F1.4.
- as for the bokeh, I don't know, never seen how it looked on FF.
- skin tones much improved. Out of camera DNG more punchy in terms of colors.
- shutter noise, better than M8 but not that much.
- exposure compensation can be changed by turning wheel and without half pressing the shutter. It exp comp interval is shown in the viewfinder.
ferider
Veteran
- with lens detection off, there is a lot of vignetting at F1.4.
As predicted. Vignetting on wides is strongly corrected via soft/firmware. The only way to do it, really.
I am assuming high iso performance will be better with longer lenses. Did you try with your 60 ?
yanidel
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No, I did take it along unluckily... I'll post results in two weeks if I get the M9 as planned but I have good hopes it will fit the 50mm framelines perfectly and be an excellent Nocti alternative on full frame.As predicted. Vignetting on wides is strongly corrected via soft/firmware. The only way to do it, really.
I am assuming high iso performance will be better with longer lenses. Did you try with your 60 ?
martin s
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You're the first one I hoped who'd get the camera. Great, I'm looking forward to all those incredibly narrow DOF shots.
martin
martin
JonasYip
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- the lens manual selection menu is a wonderful addition and works perfect.
- with lens detection off, there is a lot of vignetting at F1.4.
So, from these two lines, does this mean that one can set the current lens manually, and thus not need to worry about lens detection w/ uncoded lenses?
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yanidel
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thanks, I have two weeks to wait though as France for once seems to receive them lastYou're the first one I hoped who'd get the camera. Great, I'm looking forward to all those incredibly narrow DOF shots.
martin
yanidel
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yes, a list of all Leica lenses appear and you select it manually. Good for non Leica lens as you can choose the most similar one. For example if you have a 35mm CV Nokton 1.4, choosing the 35mm Lux Asph will probably mean good correction on your CV.So, from these two lines, does this mean that one can set the current lens manually, and thus not need to worry about lens detection w/ uncoded lenses?
j
Traut
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That's like trying to get Ferrari sound out of a Tesla - ersatz!
You are dependant on adding software and micro lenses between your excellent lens and the camera's sensor. It's a Mickey Mouse band-aid. My D2X Nikon doesn't need it - the G1 doesn't have it - the M6 has no need to think abot it.
We trade the IR filter for software and microlenses? Waz up?
You are dependant on adding software and micro lenses between your excellent lens and the camera's sensor. It's a Mickey Mouse band-aid. My D2X Nikon doesn't need it - the G1 doesn't have it - the M6 has no need to think abot it.
We trade the IR filter for software and microlenses? Waz up?
Pickett Wilson
Veteran
Didn't the brochure say that the correction needed was "insignificant?" Sounds more than insignificant to me.
CK Dexter Haven
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Thanks for this.
Did you use Exposure on the image?
Have any others?
Hi.
I should have been clearer:
Did you use Alien Skin's Exposure plug-in (or some other) to add grain?
ali_baba
Well-known
so in the exif data does it say only the focal length or does it say the actual lens itself? ex : 35 lux comes up as 35mm solely or 35mm 1.4 asph etc?
thanks, always dig your work.
thanks, always dig your work.
yanidel
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I see, no, only Lightroom processing.Hi.
I should have been clearer:
Did you use Alien Skin's Exposure plug-in (or some other) to add grain?
fbf
Well-known
Hi.
I should have been clearer:
Did you use Alien Skin's Exposure plug-in (or some other) to add grain?
good question. Because the iso 160 is not very convincing to me. It is more grainy than m8 or possibly most of low end aps-c DSLRs.
mani
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Out of camera DNG more punchy in terms of colors.
I really like the M8's color characteristics - and for the last couple of years people have been raving about how 'film-like' the M8 color is. But now I've read a few people saying the color from the M9 is 'punchier' or 'better' (whatever that means).
I'm really not sure what to think about a lot of this - I'm considering the M9 too but so far none of the images I've downloaded (jpegs or DNGs) have impressed me.
PS: looking at the DNGs in Raw Developer again now - I'd actually say the M9 files simply look more digital to me than the M8 files... I'll probably have to eat those words at some time in the future when I buy the darn camera.
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yanidel
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I think the grain comes from the JPG compression because I do not see any in the dng file.good question. Because the iso 160 is not very convincing to me. It is more grainy than m8 or possibly most of low end aps-c DSLRs.
yanidel
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I checked with the Exif viewer and found a big surprise :so in the exif data does it say only the focal length or does it say the actual lens itself? ex : 35 lux comes up as 35mm solely or 35mm 1.4 asph etc?
thanks, always dig your work.
the aperture used is estimated, in this case 1.4 which is correct. I looked at a M8 file and it was not the case.
The focal nevertheless states 35mm, Lux is never mentioned.
CK Dexter Haven
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I think the grain comes from the JPG compression because I do not see any in the dng file.
Hi.
I was referring to the 'processed' version of the file, which looks significantly different from the original you also posted.
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