Ken Ford
Refuses to suffer fools
It seems we have an issue with some of the links in this thread so I am going to edit so out.
Rover
Rover
fbf
Well-known
looks pretty darn real to me.
2.5inch lcd? battery life, size or just cutting the cost?
2.5inch lcd? battery life, size or just cutting the cost?
Ken Ford
Refuses to suffer fools
Spec shows an 80mm tall body - isn't the M8 taller, like 84mm? The M7 is shown as 79.5mm, the MP as 77mm.
Ken Ford
Refuses to suffer fools
BTW, unless someone can point to an identical brochure that this was hacked from, I can't imagine anyone going through the trouble of spoofing something like this. Smells legit to me.
user237428934
User deletion pending
I don't think that this is part of the marketing campaign. It must be the fault of a webmaster that this is already accessible.
Interesting: ISO range 80 to 2500. No High ISO race. Better than 160 to 6400!
Interesting: ISO range 80 to 2500. No High ISO race. Better than 160 to 6400!
chambrenoire
Well-known
Link doesn't work, we crashed the server or something!
bwcolor
Veteran
I seems that the pdf was pulled. Anyone have a copy?
EricC
Member
Did anyone download a copy of this as it does not appear to be available now. Not unexpected i suppose.
user237428934
User deletion pending
hm. closed the window without saving. stupid.
Ken Ford
Refuses to suffer fools
What's it worth to y'all?
<grin>
EDIT - see the link below...
<grin>
EDIT - see the link below...
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ashrafazlan
Established
Ken, send it to
i'll host it somewhere
edit rover
i'll host it somewhere
edit rover
Ken Ford
Refuses to suffer fools
Big file incoming!
Henrik
Member
Enjoy!
The X1 is in there too :O
edit rover
The X1 is in there too :O
edit rover
Hultstrom
Member
16 bit! ISO 80!
16 bit! ISO 80!
The screen is probably limited by the adherence to the basic form factor of an M-camera. I mean it looks like the chassis is practically the same as for the M8/.2, even the slightly too thick screen and button unit looks the same. That is a little sad, I had hoped for a thinner house. Otherwise though they seem to have hit the jackpot.
Going to full frame is nice. 16 bit RAW files is spectacular, and going the other way with ISO is also unprecedented. Removing /8000s was really a bummer with the M8.2, but ISO 80 fixes that. A question is why they still limit the sensitivity to ISO 2500. If it produces a clean file at that sensitivity now, that is probably enough for my (and most) photography. It is rather the Zeiss way to go, you shouldn't use higher ISO so we won't let you.
They also allude to the IR problem being solved, without a moire filter, thus keeping the high maximum resolution.
Damn, if it goes for less than $10000, I might have to get one.
/Michael
16 bit! ISO 80!
The screen is probably limited by the adherence to the basic form factor of an M-camera. I mean it looks like the chassis is practically the same as for the M8/.2, even the slightly too thick screen and button unit looks the same. That is a little sad, I had hoped for a thinner house. Otherwise though they seem to have hit the jackpot.
Going to full frame is nice. 16 bit RAW files is spectacular, and going the other way with ISO is also unprecedented. Removing /8000s was really a bummer with the M8.2, but ISO 80 fixes that. A question is why they still limit the sensitivity to ISO 2500. If it produces a clean file at that sensitivity now, that is probably enough for my (and most) photography. It is rather the Zeiss way to go, you shouldn't use higher ISO so we won't let you.
They also allude to the IR problem being solved, without a moire filter, thus keeping the high maximum resolution.
Damn, if it goes for less than $10000, I might have to get one.
/Michael
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Dear Ken,
How much do you value your kneecaps?
(This is not intended for an instant as a personal threat -- but there are some strange people out there who will stop at nothing if they don't get what they want).
Cheers,
R.
FrozenInTime
Well-known
The thread on l-camera forum linking to the site was deleted very quickly
edit rover
No new lenses in the brochure, which is a bit disappointing, but back to the M9, at least the boxer's black nylon shirt is very black ( unlike the purple shots used for the M8 ).
Here's the text from the technical data sheet that was briefly up:
LEICA M9
Technical data.
Product Leica M9 steel-grey paint finish black paint finish
Order no. 10705 10704
Camera type Compact digital view and rangefinder system camera.
Lens attachment Leica M bayonet with additional sensor for 6-bit coding.
Lens system Leica M lenses from 16 to 135 mm.
Picture format/
Image sensor
5270 x 3516 pixels (18.5 Megapixel) CCD chip, active area approx. 23.9 x 35.8 mm 5212 x 3472 pixels (18 Megapixel)
(corresponding to usable format of analog Leica M models).
Resolution Adjustable, DNG™: 5212 x 3472 pixels (18 Megapixel), JPEG: 5212 x 3472 (18 Megapixel), 3840 x 2592 (10 Megapixel),
2592 x 1728 (4,5 Megapixel), 1728 x 1152 (2 Megapixel), 1280 x 846 pixels (1 Megapixel).
Data formats DNG™ (raw data), choice of uncompressed or slightly compressed (by non-linear reduction of color depth),
2 JPEG compression levels.
File size DNG: 18 MB (compressed)/36 MB (uncompressed), JPEG: approx. 2–10 MB.
Color spaces Adobe® RGB, sRGB.
White balance Automatic, manual, 7 presets, color temperature selection.
Storage medium SD cards up to 2GB/SDHC cards up to 32GB.
Menu languages German, English, French, Spanish, Italian, Japanese, Traditional Chinese, Simplified Chinese, Russian.
Compatibility Windows® XP/Vista®; Mac® OS X (10.5).
Exposure metering Exposure metering through the lens (TTL), center-weighted with working aperture. Center-weighted TTL metering for flash
exposure with system-compatible SCA-3000/2 standard flash units.
Measurement principle Measured by light reflected by bright shutter blades on the first shutter curtain.
Metering range (at ISO 160/23°) At room temperature and normal humidity corresponds to EV 0 to 20 or f/1.0 and 1.2 s to f/32 and
1/1000 s. Flashing left triangular LED in viewfinder indicates values below metering range.
Measurement cell for
available light
(continuous light measurement) Silicon photo diode with condensing lens, positioned in the bottom center of the
camera base.
Sensitivity range ISO 80/19° to ISO 2500/35°, adjustable in 1/3 ISO increments, with aperture priority A and manual exposure setting,
choice of automatic control or manual setting, automatic control with snapshot profile.
Exposure mode Choice of automatic shutter speed control with manual aperture selection – aperture priority A – with corresponding digital
display, or manual setting of shutter speed and aperture and adjustment using LED light balance with indication of correct
exposure, or risk of overexposure/camera shake (with snapshot profile only).
Flash exposure control
Flash unit connection Via accessory shoe with center and control contacts.
Synchronization Optional synchronization on first or second shutter curtain.
Flash sync speed = 1/180 s; longer shutter speeds possible.
Flash exposure metering (with SCA-3501/3502 adapter or SCA-3000 standard flash unit, e.g. Leica SF 24D/Leica SF 58). Control with centerweighted
TTL-pre-flash metering.
Flash measurement cell 2 silicon photo diodes with condensing lens in camera base.
Flash exposure
compensation
±3 1/3 EV in 1/3 EV steps adjustable on the SCA-3501/3502 adapter. On Leica SF 24D, ±3 EV in 1/3 EV- steps with
computer control, or from 0 to –3 EV in 1 EV-steps/on Leica SF 58 adjustable in all modes ±3 EV in 1/3 EV-steps.
Displays in flash mode Flash readiness: flash symbol LED in viewfinder constant. Correct flash exposure: LED constant or flashes rapidly after
exposure. Underexposure: LED extinguished after exposure.
Viewfinder
Viewfinder principle Large, bright-line frame viewfinder with automatic parallax compensation.
Eyepiece Adjusted to -0.5 dpt. Correction lenses from -3 to +3 dpt. available.
Image framing By activating two bright-line frames: For 35 and 135 mm, 28 and 90 mm, or for 50 and 75 mm. Automatic activation when
lens is attached. Any pair of bright-line frames can be activated using the image field selector.
Parallax compensation The horizontal and vertical difference between the viewfinder and the lens is automatically compensated according to the
relevant distance setting, i.e. the viewfinder bright-line automatically aligns with the subject detail recorded by the lens.
Matching of viewfinder
and actual picture
The size of the bright-line frame corresponds exactly to the sensor size of approx. 23.9 x 35.8 mm at a setting distance of
1 meter. At infinity setting, depending on the focal length, approx. 7.3 % (28 mm) to 18 % (135 mm) more is recorded by the
sensor than indicated by the corresponding bright-line frame and slightly less for distances shorter than 1m.
Enlargement (for all lenses) 0.68x.
Large basis rangefinder Split or superimposed image range finder shown as a bright field in the center of the viewfinder image.
Effective rangefinder
base
47.1 mm (actual rangefinder base 69.25 mm x viewfinder enlargement 0.68x).
Displays
Viewfinder (lower edge) LED symbol for flash status. Four-digit seven-segment digital display with dots above and below, display brightness
adjusted for ambient brightness, for: Warning of exposure compensation, display for automatically generated shutter
speeds in aperture priority mode, indication of use of metering memory lock, warning that the metering or setting ranges
are over- or underexposed using aperture priority and counting down exposures longer than 2s.
LED light balance with two triangular and one central circular LED for manual exposure setting. The triangular LEDs give the
direction of rotation of the aperture setting ring and shutter speed setting dial to adjust the exposure. Also as warning for
over- or underexposure.
On rear panel 2,5” monitor (color TFT LCD) with 230,000 pixels.
Shutter and release
Shutter Microprocessor-controlled, exceptionally low-noise metal blade shutter with vertical movement.
Shutter speeds For aperture priority (A) continuously adjustable from 32 s to 1/4000 s. For manual setting 8 s to 1/4000 s in half steps,
B for long exposures of any duration (in conjunction with self timer T function, i. e. 1st release = shutter opens, 2nd release
= shutter closes), (1/180 s) fastest shutter speed for flash synchronization.
Shutter cocking Using low-noise integral motor, optionally after releasing the shutter release button.
Series exposures Approx. 2 pictures/s, ≤ 8 pictures in series.
Shutter release Three levels: Exposure metering on – Metering memory lock (in aperture priority mode) – Shutter release. Integrated
standard cable release thread.
Self timer Delay optionally 2 (aperture priority and manual exposure setting) or 12 s (menu setting), indicated by flashing LED on front
of camera and corresponding display on the monitor.
Switching the camera
on/off
Using the main switch on the camera’s top panel, selectable automatic power-off for camera electronics after about
2/5/10 minutes, reactivation by pressing the shutter release button.
Power supply 1 lithium ion battery, nominal voltage 3.7 V, capacity 1900 mAh. Capacity display in monitor, when shutter held open
(for sensor cleaning) additional acoustic warning when capacity is low.
Charger Inputs: 100–240 V AC, 50/60Hz, automatic switching, or 12/24 V DC; Output: 4.2V DC, 800 mA.
Camera housing
Material All-metal die cast magnesium body, KTL dip painted, synthetic leather covering. Top deck and baseplate in brass, black, or
steel-grey paint finish.
Image field selector Allows the bright-line pairs to be manually displayed at any time (e. g. for framing comparisons).
Tripod thread Stainless steel, A 1/4 (1/4’’) DIN, in baseplate.
Operating conditions 0 to +40°C
Interface 5-pin mini-USB 2.0 High-Speed socket for fast data transfer.
Dimensions (Width x Depth x Height) approx. 139 x 37 x 80 mm (5 1/2 x 11/2 x 3 1/6 in.).
Weight 585 g (19.8 oz) (with battery).
Included extras Charger 100–240 V with 2 mains cables (EU, USA, different in some export markets) and 1 car charger, lithium ion battery,
USB cable, carrying strap.
*Subject to changes in design, manufacture, and scope.
edit rover
No new lenses in the brochure, which is a bit disappointing, but back to the M9, at least the boxer's black nylon shirt is very black ( unlike the purple shots used for the M8 ).
Here's the text from the technical data sheet that was briefly up:
LEICA M9
Technical data.
Product Leica M9 steel-grey paint finish black paint finish
Order no. 10705 10704
Camera type Compact digital view and rangefinder system camera.
Lens attachment Leica M bayonet with additional sensor for 6-bit coding.
Lens system Leica M lenses from 16 to 135 mm.
Picture format/
Image sensor
5270 x 3516 pixels (18.5 Megapixel) CCD chip, active area approx. 23.9 x 35.8 mm 5212 x 3472 pixels (18 Megapixel)
(corresponding to usable format of analog Leica M models).
Resolution Adjustable, DNG™: 5212 x 3472 pixels (18 Megapixel), JPEG: 5212 x 3472 (18 Megapixel), 3840 x 2592 (10 Megapixel),
2592 x 1728 (4,5 Megapixel), 1728 x 1152 (2 Megapixel), 1280 x 846 pixels (1 Megapixel).
Data formats DNG™ (raw data), choice of uncompressed or slightly compressed (by non-linear reduction of color depth),
2 JPEG compression levels.
File size DNG: 18 MB (compressed)/36 MB (uncompressed), JPEG: approx. 2–10 MB.
Color spaces Adobe® RGB, sRGB.
White balance Automatic, manual, 7 presets, color temperature selection.
Storage medium SD cards up to 2GB/SDHC cards up to 32GB.
Menu languages German, English, French, Spanish, Italian, Japanese, Traditional Chinese, Simplified Chinese, Russian.
Compatibility Windows® XP/Vista®; Mac® OS X (10.5).
Exposure metering Exposure metering through the lens (TTL), center-weighted with working aperture. Center-weighted TTL metering for flash
exposure with system-compatible SCA-3000/2 standard flash units.
Measurement principle Measured by light reflected by bright shutter blades on the first shutter curtain.
Metering range (at ISO 160/23°) At room temperature and normal humidity corresponds to EV 0 to 20 or f/1.0 and 1.2 s to f/32 and
1/1000 s. Flashing left triangular LED in viewfinder indicates values below metering range.
Measurement cell for
available light
(continuous light measurement) Silicon photo diode with condensing lens, positioned in the bottom center of the
camera base.
Sensitivity range ISO 80/19° to ISO 2500/35°, adjustable in 1/3 ISO increments, with aperture priority A and manual exposure setting,
choice of automatic control or manual setting, automatic control with snapshot profile.
Exposure mode Choice of automatic shutter speed control with manual aperture selection – aperture priority A – with corresponding digital
display, or manual setting of shutter speed and aperture and adjustment using LED light balance with indication of correct
exposure, or risk of overexposure/camera shake (with snapshot profile only).
Flash exposure control
Flash unit connection Via accessory shoe with center and control contacts.
Synchronization Optional synchronization on first or second shutter curtain.
Flash sync speed = 1/180 s; longer shutter speeds possible.
Flash exposure metering (with SCA-3501/3502 adapter or SCA-3000 standard flash unit, e.g. Leica SF 24D/Leica SF 58). Control with centerweighted
TTL-pre-flash metering.
Flash measurement cell 2 silicon photo diodes with condensing lens in camera base.
Flash exposure
compensation
±3 1/3 EV in 1/3 EV steps adjustable on the SCA-3501/3502 adapter. On Leica SF 24D, ±3 EV in 1/3 EV- steps with
computer control, or from 0 to –3 EV in 1 EV-steps/on Leica SF 58 adjustable in all modes ±3 EV in 1/3 EV-steps.
Displays in flash mode Flash readiness: flash symbol LED in viewfinder constant. Correct flash exposure: LED constant or flashes rapidly after
exposure. Underexposure: LED extinguished after exposure.
Viewfinder
Viewfinder principle Large, bright-line frame viewfinder with automatic parallax compensation.
Eyepiece Adjusted to -0.5 dpt. Correction lenses from -3 to +3 dpt. available.
Image framing By activating two bright-line frames: For 35 and 135 mm, 28 and 90 mm, or for 50 and 75 mm. Automatic activation when
lens is attached. Any pair of bright-line frames can be activated using the image field selector.
Parallax compensation The horizontal and vertical difference between the viewfinder and the lens is automatically compensated according to the
relevant distance setting, i.e. the viewfinder bright-line automatically aligns with the subject detail recorded by the lens.
Matching of viewfinder
and actual picture
The size of the bright-line frame corresponds exactly to the sensor size of approx. 23.9 x 35.8 mm at a setting distance of
1 meter. At infinity setting, depending on the focal length, approx. 7.3 % (28 mm) to 18 % (135 mm) more is recorded by the
sensor than indicated by the corresponding bright-line frame and slightly less for distances shorter than 1m.
Enlargement (for all lenses) 0.68x.
Large basis rangefinder Split or superimposed image range finder shown as a bright field in the center of the viewfinder image.
Effective rangefinder
base
47.1 mm (actual rangefinder base 69.25 mm x viewfinder enlargement 0.68x).
Displays
Viewfinder (lower edge) LED symbol for flash status. Four-digit seven-segment digital display with dots above and below, display brightness
adjusted for ambient brightness, for: Warning of exposure compensation, display for automatically generated shutter
speeds in aperture priority mode, indication of use of metering memory lock, warning that the metering or setting ranges
are over- or underexposed using aperture priority and counting down exposures longer than 2s.
LED light balance with two triangular and one central circular LED for manual exposure setting. The triangular LEDs give the
direction of rotation of the aperture setting ring and shutter speed setting dial to adjust the exposure. Also as warning for
over- or underexposure.
On rear panel 2,5” monitor (color TFT LCD) with 230,000 pixels.
Shutter and release
Shutter Microprocessor-controlled, exceptionally low-noise metal blade shutter with vertical movement.
Shutter speeds For aperture priority (A) continuously adjustable from 32 s to 1/4000 s. For manual setting 8 s to 1/4000 s in half steps,
B for long exposures of any duration (in conjunction with self timer T function, i. e. 1st release = shutter opens, 2nd release
= shutter closes), (1/180 s) fastest shutter speed for flash synchronization.
Shutter cocking Using low-noise integral motor, optionally after releasing the shutter release button.
Series exposures Approx. 2 pictures/s, ≤ 8 pictures in series.
Shutter release Three levels: Exposure metering on – Metering memory lock (in aperture priority mode) – Shutter release. Integrated
standard cable release thread.
Self timer Delay optionally 2 (aperture priority and manual exposure setting) or 12 s (menu setting), indicated by flashing LED on front
of camera and corresponding display on the monitor.
Switching the camera
on/off
Using the main switch on the camera’s top panel, selectable automatic power-off for camera electronics after about
2/5/10 minutes, reactivation by pressing the shutter release button.
Power supply 1 lithium ion battery, nominal voltage 3.7 V, capacity 1900 mAh. Capacity display in monitor, when shutter held open
(for sensor cleaning) additional acoustic warning when capacity is low.
Charger Inputs: 100–240 V AC, 50/60Hz, automatic switching, or 12/24 V DC; Output: 4.2V DC, 800 mA.
Camera housing
Material All-metal die cast magnesium body, KTL dip painted, synthetic leather covering. Top deck and baseplate in brass, black, or
steel-grey paint finish.
Image field selector Allows the bright-line pairs to be manually displayed at any time (e. g. for framing comparisons).
Tripod thread Stainless steel, A 1/4 (1/4’’) DIN, in baseplate.
Operating conditions 0 to +40°C
Interface 5-pin mini-USB 2.0 High-Speed socket for fast data transfer.
Dimensions (Width x Depth x Height) approx. 139 x 37 x 80 mm (5 1/2 x 11/2 x 3 1/6 in.).
Weight 585 g (19.8 oz) (with battery).
Included extras Charger 100–240 V with 2 mains cables (EU, USA, different in some export markets) and 1 car charger, lithium ion battery,
USB cable, carrying strap.
*Subject to changes in design, manufacture, and scope.
Ken Ford
Refuses to suffer fools
Roger, you're effectively French at this point, so -
Pffffft! Your Mother Is a Hamster and Your Father Smells of Elderberries!
Pffffft! Your Mother Is a Hamster and Your Father Smells of Elderberries!
ashrafazlan
Established
Here you go guys
edit rover
i'll update this post with more mirrors soon
edit rover
i'll update this post with more mirrors soon
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Roger, you're effectively French at this point, so -
Pffffft! Your Mother Is a Hamster and Your Father Smells of Elderberries!
Sacred blue, stupid English k-nig-uh-hut!
Cheers,
R.
gb hill
Veteran
So I guess the price will be $9,999