M9 brochure up... or not

[Keith]

Why don't you post in the film forums then? No one needs a film missionary here.

What ... no missionary position allowed in this forum!!!

I'm outa here!

 

[Erik van Straten]

Why don't you post in the film forums then? No one needs a film missionary here.

I do post in the film forums, don't worry. You want your street clean, isn't it?

Erik.

 

[squirrel$$$bandit]

I just can't believe anyone is still having an analog vs digital debate. It's freaking meaningless how the pictures get taken, except to the photographer. trying to convince other people that your way is better is pointless.

The reason this excites me so much is not that I have any chance of owning one in the near future, but that Leica suddenly seems like a going concern after years of decline. My M2 is connected to my M7 is connected to the M9--they are moving forward while still respecting the past. Good news for all RF photographers.

 

[Keith]

I'm happy and sad ... happy because Leica may have finally cracked it and come up with a package that does everything it's supposed to do but sad because it'll be at least a year before I can even contemplate ownership. I suspect it's going to be a ten thousand dollar camera here in Oz!

As for judging the success of the M9 down the track ... if they start painting them white at any stage start thinking about the M10! :angel:

Hmmm ... just contemplating an M9 with a .95 Noctilux makes me wish I'd taken up dentistry. Or maybe armed robbery!

 

[Pickett Wilson]

"Computer systems tend to change. In about 20 years no system will be able to read files that are made now."

And I have text files that were originally stored on 8" floppy disks on a Compugraphic 7300 typesetter. But when I went to 5.25" floppies, I moved them over. And when I went to 3.5 inch disk, I moved them over, and when I went to Zip drives I moved them over, and when I went CD's and DVD's I moved them to those, and now portable drives and flash drives, I also moved them to those. Those original 8 inch floppies are long in the dump, along with the Compugraphic that created them, but the original, unchanged digital files live on...and will continue to do so regardless of the technology that exists in the future.

Red herring.

 

[Pickett Wilson]

Speaking for myself only, no one will give a flip about stuff I've shot 200 years from now. Probably not 10 years from now. Heck, I probably won't care.😉

 

[Erik van Straten]

"Computer systems tend to change. In about 20 years no system will be able to read files that are made now."

And I have text files that were originally stored on 8" floppy disks on a Compugraphic 7300 typesetter. But when I went to 5.25" floppies, I moved them over. And when I went to 3.5 inch disk, I moved them over, and when I went to Zip drives I moved them over, and when I went CD's and DVD's I moved them to those, and now portable drives and flash drives, I also moved them to those. Those original 8 inch floppies are long in the dump, along with the Compugraphic that created them, but the original, unchanged digital files live on...and will continue to do so regardless of the technology that exists in the future.

You've did all that because you could. But when you are in the Big Darkroom above no one will do that for you.
Personally I would like that my son, his children and their children will see my pictures. I make the pictures partly for them. I myself do enjoy very much the old pictures (sometimes 100 years old) of my family.

Erik.

 

[Ken Ford]

C'mon, do we really need the film vs. digital debate here? It's all good; please let us pixelhounds have our moment in the sun.

 

[johannielscom]

I'm hanging on to my original M8, they have even completely removed it from the current line up and the brochure, my M8 will be collectable soon! 😛

Although I'm being bitten by GAS all over, I'm not getting this camera.

I'm not willing to let go of any of the gear I currently own and will not break the bank for it either.

I did a model shoot today and post processed some shots tonight. Although the IR-cut filters annoy the hell out of me, the M8 did a very good job, so it's a keeper.

Enjoy the M9 guys and girls, I'm gonna read all I can and be green with envy on occasions, I'm sure!

 

[sojournerphoto]

Just a few comments:-

I'm a canon dslr user and I'm definitely the target market for a full frame, around 20Mp drf with decent files.

I'm still hoping that Zeiss will build a digital Ikon - then I can have two the same. As I shouldn't really buy an M9 in the immediate future I may get a choice?

If you want your children to see your pictures then make some prints - high end innkjet or silver gelatin all last long enough. negs and files are unlikely to be looked at when your gone (unless you're famous)

I'm far more concerned about next week than next year, oh yes... but today has enough worries of its own.

Mike

 

[jaapv]

Zeis Ikon will NOT build a DRF. They have said so. It would be as -or more- expensive as the M9 will be so they could never compete

 

[sojournerphoto]

Zeis Ikon will NOT build a DRF. They have said so. It would be as -or more- expensive as the M9 will be so they could never compete

Missed that one - beter just buy the M9 (or a load of tri x and ektar then...)

Mike

 

[Keith]

Zeis Ikon will NOT build a DRF. They have said so. It would be as -or more- expensive as the M9 will be so they could never compete

You could be right jaapv but I personally would hope you're not.

I just feel that it would be healthier for us all for someone to offer Leica a little competition in this niche market but as you say it seems unlikely. Zeiss would need to bring out something significantly cheaper and nearly as proficient to break into what now appears to be Leica's market.

 

[SeaninBrisbane]

I must admit it looks as though Leica is on the right track with the M9 - it could be a beautiful camera. Just a shame I can't afford one right now! So - any specs on the X1????

 

[Ronald_H]

However on the positive side, I know that maybe when 35mm film has become too expensive to print/shoot

We'll probably see that in our lifetimes. But a big, big freezer, filled to the brim with film is significantly cheaper than an M9. Color might be a problem to have developed though. Printing should be no problem as long as you can scan.

But hey, the sale of vinyl has gone UP the last few years...

 

[leicashot]

Why don't you post in the film forums then? No one needs a film missionary here.

I think he's being ok. He's just voicing an opinion and not being disrespectful about it.

 

[sojournerphoto]

Just scanned the (alleged) brochure - 'an investment for life' sounds good. If it works as well as it should then a 1Ds3, M9 and Ikon could meet all my small format needs for as long I can shoot - obviously it would be necessary to resist the 35Mp 1Ds4 and 30Mp M10, but really we do apear to have an abundance of riches available to us in the near future.

Now, does anyone want to buy a...

Mike

 

[Ken Ford]

... kidney?

 

[leica007]

How about this rational speculation :

in germany : M8.2 = € 4875 [approx]
rumoured price of M9 = € 5500

in USA: m8.2 = $6000 [rounded as on Bhphoto] [not directly Euro converted rate of almost $7000]

hence, the proportionate speculated price of M9 in the USA = $ 6800 = $7000 rounded or icing on the cake/ keep-your-spouse-happy price = $6999.99 [you get your share of 9s too!]

 

[kahudson]

I was just browsing older Leica camera brochures and the purported X1 looks very much like the CM. While I would probably go for a fixed lens "entry" camera, I don't think it will compete much with the EP-1 or GF-1. Part of the attraction of those cameras is precisely the interchangeability of the lens.

I'd sure like a M9, but I suspect it will cost $6-7,500 new.