Steve Bellayr
Veteran
Let's step back a minute. Can we use the Zeiss & Voigtlander lenses on this camera? If this is so with a custom setting then Leica will have a greater range for their sales as many more buyers would be willing to trade up using their non-Leica lenses as well as the Leica lenses. That becomes even more tempting...
dotur
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1,715,677 leica M9 buyers!
1,715,677 leica M9 buyers!
Yes... and can you imagine the proud owners of Zorki 4 cameras (1,715,677 total production) rushing to buy a new M9 for their Industars and Jupiters! All those fine rangefinder lenses have long waited for a proper FF digital body!
My site: www.ivanlozica.com
1,715,677 leica M9 buyers!
Yes... and can you imagine the proud owners of Zorki 4 cameras (1,715,677 total production) rushing to buy a new M9 for their Industars and Jupiters! All those fine rangefinder lenses have long waited for a proper FF digital body!
My site: www.ivanlozica.com
ampguy
Veteran
You can use them just like on an M8
You can use them just like on an M8
Only Leica lenses / models are in the manual setup table, the only difference between the M9 is that you don't need to code them to be recognized as a similar Leica lens (if one exists). There are no entries for 15mm, 40mm, or 43mm, as Leica doesn't make these or support them on the M9.
Your CV/Zeiss/Jupiter/Nikon/Canon/Pentax, etc. LTM/M lens will at best show up in exif info. as a similar length Leica lens with corrections for such, and at worse, will have corrections applied for the Leica lens, that do not apply unless you turn lens detection off, which is an option.
Other than not having to scribble dots on your non-Leica lens, I don't see how the M9 is any more of an open system than the M8 platform.
You can use them just like on an M8
Only Leica lenses / models are in the manual setup table, the only difference between the M9 is that you don't need to code them to be recognized as a similar Leica lens (if one exists). There are no entries for 15mm, 40mm, or 43mm, as Leica doesn't make these or support them on the M9.
Your CV/Zeiss/Jupiter/Nikon/Canon/Pentax, etc. LTM/M lens will at best show up in exif info. as a similar length Leica lens with corrections for such, and at worse, will have corrections applied for the Leica lens, that do not apply unless you turn lens detection off, which is an option.
Other than not having to scribble dots on your non-Leica lens, I don't see how the M9 is any more of an open system than the M8 platform.
Let's step back a minute. Can we use the Zeiss & Voigtlander lenses on this camera? If this is so with a custom setting then Leica will have a greater range for their sales as many more buyers would be willing to trade up using their non-Leica lenses as well as the Leica lenses. That becomes even more tempting...
Ben Z
Veteran
Other than not having to scribble dots on your non-Leica lens, I don't see how the M9 is any more of an open system than the M8 platform.
The menu lens-list sounded great to me in the beginning, when I had just got my M8. In practice though, needing to change menu settings when I change lenses would prove to be a time killer. I permanently self-coded (milled black-code recesses and painted them) all my 35mm and shorter lenses so that they would be recognized immediately upon mounting them. That includes the ones I could've sent to Leica and paid to have coded. The only reason I could see a benefit to the menu is if I happened to be out and borrowed someone else's uncoded wideangle, which hasn't happened.
Steve M.
Veteran
The guy on that website never saw an expensive camera that he didn't absolutely love.
ampguy
Veteran
yeah
yeah
I think it's a great idea, works well for Nikon, and one can still revert to the 6-bit lens detection on or off, if manual mode fails (e.g. forgetting to change setting when changing lens).
With newer Leica lens (> 2006), you can't easily use manual mode, you can, but those lenses aren't in the list, encouraging you to explicitly use or not use the internal detection and have your lens coded, if it wasn't factory coded.
yeah
I think it's a great idea, works well for Nikon, and one can still revert to the 6-bit lens detection on or off, if manual mode fails (e.g. forgetting to change setting when changing lens).
With newer Leica lens (> 2006), you can't easily use manual mode, you can, but those lenses aren't in the list, encouraging you to explicitly use or not use the internal detection and have your lens coded, if it wasn't factory coded.
The menu lens-list sounded great to me in the beginning, when I had just got my M8. In practice though, needing to change menu settings when I change lenses would prove to be a time killer. I permanently self-coded (milled black-code recesses and painted them) all my 35mm and shorter lenses so that they would be recognized immediately upon mounting them. That includes the ones I could've sent to Leica and paid to have coded. The only reason I could see a benefit to the menu is if I happened to be out and borrowed someone else's uncoded wideangle, which hasn't happened.
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