Denton
Established
Hi Folks,
I shot a wedding for hire yesterday in a park. I had gathered my Canon 5D, 70-200 and 24-105 as main lenses. I also pack two 580EXII speedlights for after hours receptions and fill flash during full sun as this wedding was at 2:30 EST and it was Hot!
I was using the 70-200 as the bride was almost ready to walk into the open amphitheater to meet the groom when my 5D threw it's mirror! I handed my assistant the bad camera and lenses and she said, "now what are you going to do?" I had my M9 in the Domke F2 I also carry on my shoulder but it had a Color Skopar 35mm f2.5 lens on it and I didn't want to shoot a processional with 35mm. I traded the Skopar for my ONLY other rangefinder lens, the 75mm Heliar classic and got the shots off, focusing madly as the Bride, Mom and Dad came down the path. The happy couple were standing with their backs to full sunlight so I had to expose for the shadows at ISO 200 and 1/200 about f8. The sun became too much for the groom and the wonderful woman pastor moved the couple into some shade just to their right. Good break for me, the light in the shadow was just what I needed for lower contrast and f5.6. I shot the rest of the ceremony with that 75mm Heliar and followed the group shots with the 35mm Skopar. We also did some marvelous beach shots with the Heliar and a homemade portable scrim I've invented. Later that night at the reception I could not use the 580's so I pulled out the old Vivitar 285 and slapped it on the M9.
So how did the images compare? I'm very happy with them. I certainlly did miss the spotmeter on the 5D as I find this is the best way to assure proper exposure, metering on the face and using back button for focus. But, I usually meter all posed shots with a incident meter anyway. I do find metering candids is better done by setting the camera manually and switching between memorized sun and shade settings. Another issue is the parallax of the 75mm so that I had to occassionally reshoot after chimping. I did not have my 75mm finder in the bag, unfortunately. Since I did not have my 580's for fill light, I posed the groups with the sun at their backs and used two large white reflectors laid out on the ground in front of them for fill light, probably 10x3 feet of white reflective fill.
So why didn't I have another 5D in the bag? I had sold my 5DMII and several L lenses to get the M9!
Cheers,
Denton
I shot a wedding for hire yesterday in a park. I had gathered my Canon 5D, 70-200 and 24-105 as main lenses. I also pack two 580EXII speedlights for after hours receptions and fill flash during full sun as this wedding was at 2:30 EST and it was Hot!
I was using the 70-200 as the bride was almost ready to walk into the open amphitheater to meet the groom when my 5D threw it's mirror! I handed my assistant the bad camera and lenses and she said, "now what are you going to do?" I had my M9 in the Domke F2 I also carry on my shoulder but it had a Color Skopar 35mm f2.5 lens on it and I didn't want to shoot a processional with 35mm. I traded the Skopar for my ONLY other rangefinder lens, the 75mm Heliar classic and got the shots off, focusing madly as the Bride, Mom and Dad came down the path. The happy couple were standing with their backs to full sunlight so I had to expose for the shadows at ISO 200 and 1/200 about f8. The sun became too much for the groom and the wonderful woman pastor moved the couple into some shade just to their right. Good break for me, the light in the shadow was just what I needed for lower contrast and f5.6. I shot the rest of the ceremony with that 75mm Heliar and followed the group shots with the 35mm Skopar. We also did some marvelous beach shots with the Heliar and a homemade portable scrim I've invented. Later that night at the reception I could not use the 580's so I pulled out the old Vivitar 285 and slapped it on the M9.
So how did the images compare? I'm very happy with them. I certainlly did miss the spotmeter on the 5D as I find this is the best way to assure proper exposure, metering on the face and using back button for focus. But, I usually meter all posed shots with a incident meter anyway. I do find metering candids is better done by setting the camera manually and switching between memorized sun and shade settings. Another issue is the parallax of the 75mm so that I had to occassionally reshoot after chimping. I did not have my 75mm finder in the bag, unfortunately. Since I did not have my 580's for fill light, I posed the groups with the sun at their backs and used two large white reflectors laid out on the ground in front of them for fill light, probably 10x3 feet of white reflective fill.
So why didn't I have another 5D in the bag? I had sold my 5DMII and several L lenses to get the M9!
Cheers,
Denton
Last edited:
Ronald M
Veteran
Anyone who does paid work without two sets of equipment complete down to batteries and sync cords is not professional. And at an event that can not be redone is even worse.
Denton
Established
Assumptions and sagely advice
Assumptions and sagely advice
Thank you for your words of wisdom. I've sold my Canon equipment because I'm getting out of the professional photography business. I've got a much better gig. This is my last PAID wedding, however, I hope to shoot more for my own pleasure. Backup is always essential, but it need not duplicate the preferred kit if the photographer is experience in other gear. I often have a tertiary backup with film, which can provide it's own unique advantages.
Did you peek in my bag and see everything that was in there?
Denton
Assumptions and sagely advice
Anyone who does paid work without two sets of equipment complete down to batteries and sync cords is not professional. And at an event that can not be redone is even worse.
Thank you for your words of wisdom. I've sold my Canon equipment because I'm getting out of the professional photography business. I've got a much better gig. This is my last PAID wedding, however, I hope to shoot more for my own pleasure. Backup is always essential, but it need not duplicate the preferred kit if the photographer is experience in other gear. I often have a tertiary backup with film, which can provide it's own unique advantages.
Did you peek in my bag and see everything that was in there?
Denton
Last edited:
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
Hi Folks,
I shot a wedding for hire yesterday in a park. I had gathered my Canon 5D, 70-200 and 24-105 as main lenses. I also pack two 580EXII speedlights for after hours receptions and fill flash during full sun as this wedding was at 2:30 EST and it was Hot!
I was using the 70-200 as the bride was almost ready to walk into the open amphitheater to meet the groom when my 5D threw it's mirror! I handed my assistant the bad camera and lenses and she said, "now what are you going to do?" I had my M9 in the Domke F2 I also carry on my shoulder but it had a Color Skopar 35mm f2.5 lens on it and I didn't want to shoot a processional with 35mm. I traded the Skopar for my ONLY other rangefinder lens, the 75mm Heliar classic and got the shots off, focusing madly as the Bride, Mom and Dad came down the path. The happy couple were standing with their backs to full sunlight so I had to expose for the shadows at ISO 200 and 1/200 about f8. The sun became too much for the groom and the wonderful woman pastor moved the couple into some shade just to their right. Good break for me, the light in the shadow was just what I needed for lower contrast and f5.6. I shot the rest of the ceremony with that 75mm Heliar and followed the group shots with the 35mm Skopar. We also did some marvelous beach shots with the Heliar and a homemade portable scrim I've invented. Later that night at the reception I could not use the 580's so I pulled out the old Vivitar 285 and slapped it on the M9.
So how did the images compare? I'm very happy with them. I certainlly did miss the spotmeter on the 5D as I find this is the best way to assure proper exposure, metering on the face and using back button for focus. But, I usually meter all posed shots with a incident meter anyway. I do find metering candids is better done by setting the camera manually and switching between memorized sun and shade settings. Another issue is the parallax of the 75mm so that I had to occassionally reshoot after chimping. I did not have my 75mm finder in the bag, unfortunately. Since I did not have my 580's for fill light, I posed the groups with the sun at their backs and used two large white reflectors laid out on the ground in front of them for fill light, probably 10x3 feet of white reflective fill.
So why didn't I have another 5D in the bag? I had sold my 5DMII and several L lenses to get the M9!
Cheers,
Denton
Betcha you didn't expect to push it into full service at such short notice then! Good to read that it held its own and you got the job done.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Anyone who does paid work without two sets of equipment complete down to batteries and sync cords is not professional. And at an event that can not be redone is even worse.
Ummm.... He had two sets of equipment.
What sort of professional work do you do? 'Cos I certainly don't have 2x 10x8 iinch cameras, or two Strobe 5000 packs, and nor did the advertising studio I worked in during the 70s.
Cheers,
R.
Thardy
Veteran
Good thing you had the bag on your shoulder.
Nokton48
Veteran
Good thing it worked out for him. I would never want to deal with an unhappy Bride and Groom. Or especially, their immediate family.
I happen to have two 8x10 Sinar Normas, and two Broncolor 6000ws Power Packs.
I do all sorts of work.
I happen to have two 8x10 Sinar Normas, and two Broncolor 6000ws Power Packs.
I do all sorts of work.
nobbylon
Veteran
If I was doing weddings I'd always have a back up with same lens mount.
Sod's law dictated that Denton had sold his other Canon! At least he got the job done.
I usually have 2 Nikon's in my bag with an LX3 for back up!
Sod's law dictated that Denton had sold his other Canon! At least he got the job done.
I usually have 2 Nikon's in my bag with an LX3 for back up!
Pickett Wilson
Veteran
Glad the M9 saved the wedding. Now, if M9's could just save the marriages, Leica would would make a fortune! 
tbarker13
shooter of stuff
I certainly believe in back-up gear. But I don't see where it is critical to have two entirely different sets of equipment. Merely having enough backup gear in one set-up should be quite adequate.
I'd never shoot a wedding without at least two bodies, a pair of flashes and enough lenses that if one gets broken - I'd have another that could essentially take its place. (That's one of the reasons I'm not a huge fan of zoom lenses)
I'd never shoot a wedding without at least two bodies, a pair of flashes and enough lenses that if one gets broken - I'd have another that could essentially take its place. (That's one of the reasons I'm not a huge fan of zoom lenses)
tlitody
Well-known
Glad the M9 saved the wedding. Now, if M9's could just save the marriages, Leica would would make a fortune!![]()
Well I guess that's one benefit of digital. You can get the images images to the happy couple before the wedding is even consummated
kkdanamatt
Well-known
A few years ago I was hired to shoot a wedding and was driving down the NJ Turnpike to the church. I was a bit late and the traffic was heavy, so I unzipped the camera bag on the passenger's seat, reached in to grab one of my three Canons so I could load the film before I arrived. While I was holding the camera and driving at the same time,
the car in front of me stopped short (to this day I don't know why) and I stood on the brake to avoid a collision.
The bag thrust forward into the passenger's footwell and both Canon's were smashed and jammed.
I shot the entire wedding with only one body and no backup. I sweated so much that I think I lost ten pounds that day. Never again!
the car in front of me stopped short (to this day I don't know why) and I stood on the brake to avoid a collision.
The bag thrust forward into the passenger's footwell and both Canon's were smashed and jammed.
I shot the entire wedding with only one body and no backup. I sweated so much that I think I lost ten pounds that day. Never again!
Last edited:
sevres_babylone
Veteran
Glad the M9 saved the wedding. Now, if M9's could just save the marriages, Leica would would make a fortune!![]()
Would cut into repeat business though
__hh
Well-known
"So why didn't I have another 5D in the bag? I had sold my 5DMII and several L lenses to get the M9!"
In this situation, I would have thought that the M9 nearly ruined the wedding
In this situation, I would have thought that the M9 nearly ruined the wedding
Traut
Well-known
I would have rented or borrowed a similar body as it was a paid WEDDING. All I know is you lucked out.
willie_901
Veteran
A back up is a back up.
You made the images you needed to make. That's one thing pros do. They get the photos their clients ned no matter what.
You made the images you needed to make. That's one thing pros do. They get the photos their clients ned no matter what.
tlitody
Well-known
if you have equipment with you and know how to use it, I don't think it matters that the backup camera is a different system. That's the difference between a pro and an amateur.
From what the original poster has said, it seems like he did a good job and saved the day because he knew what he was doing and how to use his equipment.
Plenty people use rangefinders for weddings so what's the problem.
From what the original poster has said, it seems like he did a good job and saved the day because he knew what he was doing and how to use his equipment.
Plenty people use rangefinders for weddings so what's the problem.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
A back up is a back up.
You made the images you needed to make. That's one thing pros do. They get the photos their clients need no matter what.
That's my feeling. Where was the luck?
Cheers,
R.
Denton
Established
if you have equipment with you and know how to use it, I don't think it matters that the backup camera is a different system. That's the difference between a pro and an amateur.
From what the original poster has said, it seems like he did a good job and saved the day because he knew what he was doing and how to use his equipment.
Plenty people use rangefinders for weddings so what's the problem.
I do believe I could pick up a fully manual camera like the Leica and get the shot faster than I could confirm that a backup Canon was properly configured. Yes, I could have an exactly configured Canon in my bag, but I like to shoot with two cameras with different lenses.
The point I'd hoped I'd make was that two rangefinder lenses are more than "adequate"!
Oh, and there was a tertiary backup, but I choose the Leica!
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Good thing it worked out for him. I would never want to deal with an unhappy Bride and Groom. Or especially, their immediate family.
I happen to have two 8x10 Sinar Normas, and two Broncolor 6000ws Power Packs.
I do all sorts of work.
Have you had them go wrong often? When there was no hope of hiring or borrowing a replacement?
Cheers,
R.
Share:
-
This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.