afineman
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Happy to report that my M9 worked fine in the recent NYC blizzard.
M9 survives NYC blizzard
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dfoo
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What is causing the vignetting?
sper
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My Monday flight did not in fact, survive. Flying back tomorrow after a 4 day delay!
I'm currently exploring all the features of my Nikon P7000, so when i get back it'll be Brooklyn snows vs the Coolpix. An underdog battle for sure.
I'm currently exploring all the features of my Nikon P7000, so when i get back it'll be Brooklyn snows vs the Coolpix. An underdog battle for sure.
afineman
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Lightroom 3
I processed the photos in LR3 with the B&W Yellow filter setting and added a vignette.
I processed the photos in LR3 with the B&W Yellow filter setting and added a vignette.
afineman
Established
Marc, sorry to hear about your flight, there should be plenty of snow left when you get back to bklyn. On a side note, did you see this clip about the NYTimes "discovering" Brooklyn? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOxoCi4wCmI
JSU, One battery for the few hours I was out. Though I did carry a spare in my inside pocket. And I kept the camera under my outer-jacket between shots.
JSU, One battery for the few hours I was out. Though I did carry a spare in my inside pocket. And I kept the camera under my outer-jacket between shots.
back alley
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what was the local temp when shooting?
a little snow shouldn't hurt a leica...
a little snow shouldn't hurt a leica...
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Pablito
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any pro dslr or slr, or any all mechanical Leica would be expected to "survive" such an very normal situation for a pro camera. so the fact this is even a concern is telling...
Phil_F_NM
Camera hacker
My M8 was out for 58 hours in the two blizzards which hit the mid-Atlantic early 2010. No problems at all. Battery life was decent for very cold weather. The M8 was wrapped up in several layers of cling wrap as well as the 21mm ZM f/2.8 lens which was on it. Both performed fantastically.
I can only hope the M9 does as well.
Phil Forrest
I can only hope the M9 does as well.
Phil Forrest
250swb
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Well yes, but you have to remember there is the 'considering what I paid for it' argument going on in the back of some peoples heads which skews expectations.
To my mind it is M9 owners themselves who are selling it short in its abilities, with constant worries about can it do 'this or that', when in fact it can and will do 'this or that'.
Battery life is good in the cold. It was minus 14c the other day, I made 258 exposures over three hours, never turned it off and it was around my neck all the time, I did some chimping, and when I went indoors the battery meter still showed 75% full. Is that supposed to be bad or something?
Steve
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250swb
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Ditto. In fact I think its a bad idea, where is moisture going to go if its locked inside the bag and getting warmer? I do like you, let air get to the camera and its ready to go again in half an hour.
Steve
nobbylon
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Not wishing to be arguementative but what does this prove? M9 survives NYC blizzard! I should hope so too as any camera I've ever used would.
I was out over the Xmas period in the snow and ice cold temp's in Holland with my D700 and F4 and 'amazingly' they survived.
Is it that M9 owners are trying to convince themselves or others that the cost of the camera is justified by telling us about outings in extremes of weather?
I'm honestly not dissing the post or the camera but i'm sorry, if it can't survive a walk in the snow then it's better left on the shelf in a warm dry cabinet!
I was out over the Xmas period in the snow and ice cold temp's in Holland with my D700 and F4 and 'amazingly' they survived.
Is it that M9 owners are trying to convince themselves or others that the cost of the camera is justified by telling us about outings in extremes of weather?
I'm honestly not dissing the post or the camera but i'm sorry, if it can't survive a walk in the snow then it's better left on the shelf in a warm dry cabinet!
Mablo
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M9 is a new model. It's good to know that it can take cold just as well as other Leicas.
Here my old dog and my old Rolleicord survived -25C (-13F). The hole in the ice is for swimming. All swimmers survived too.
Here my old dog and my old Rolleicord survived -25C (-13F). The hole in the ice is for swimming. All swimmers survived too.
nobbylon
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OK maybe I'm missing the point here however is it not more that the batteries are being tested? If the camera hasn't been cold soaked then it should work fine with a decent battery.
The problem with small cameras that are kept out in the cold is that the batteries are small too and hence get colder quicker than larger ones wrapped up by bigger cameras.
Lcd screens pack in and if the camera is overlubed with outside temperature range lubes then that would also cause problems.
I carried my Nikon and an M6 either over my shoulder or in my backpack for 7-8 hrs at a time in the mountains above the snowline and had no problems. Others with small point and shoots had less success until the batteries had been warmed.
Moisture from snow melting and getting inside and then freezing could also lock up anything. Keep any camera warm and dry, close to your body and it should work exactly the same anywhere. If you were going somewhere extreme then the camera could be de-lubed but I think modern lubricants used in todays cameras can withstand all but the worst extremes, hot or cold.
The problem with small cameras that are kept out in the cold is that the batteries are small too and hence get colder quicker than larger ones wrapped up by bigger cameras.
Lcd screens pack in and if the camera is overlubed with outside temperature range lubes then that would also cause problems.
I carried my Nikon and an M6 either over my shoulder or in my backpack for 7-8 hrs at a time in the mountains above the snowline and had no problems. Others with small point and shoots had less success until the batteries had been warmed.
Moisture from snow melting and getting inside and then freezing could also lock up anything. Keep any camera warm and dry, close to your body and it should work exactly the same anywhere. If you were going somewhere extreme then the camera could be de-lubed but I think modern lubricants used in todays cameras can withstand all but the worst extremes, hot or cold.
bigeye
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you guys are arguing about batteries. Holiday cabin fever is taking hold.
aad
Not so new now.
My wife, unknowingly, dropped her Canon SD880 as she left my car the night of Christmas-in a small case.
Monday night, she realized her camera was missing, went to my car and found it lying on the ground which was bare from the 50 MPH winds howling all day, blowing the snow away.
She took it in, turned it on, and took a bunch of pictures right away. Not sure how even a mechanical camera would have done.
Monday night, she realized her camera was missing, went to my car and found it lying on the ground which was bare from the 50 MPH winds howling all day, blowing the snow away.
She took it in, turned it on, and took a bunch of pictures right away. Not sure how even a mechanical camera would have done.
jsrockit
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Did you expect it not to? My Leica X1 worked fine as well... it wasn't that cold!
Sonnar Brian
Established
I learned about cold and cameras when I was 13, visiting New York in the Winter. The Alkaline AA batteries in my Movie Camera shorted out and got very hot as I was filming my cousins in a snowball battle.
Arjay
Time Traveller
Yeah, I know - the old Leica prejudice: If it runs on batteries, it must be junk. Its tragic that Leica's M9, being electronic, needs batteries too now. Maybe they should have better equipped it with a crank and a dynamo, then it would be accepted better by Leica traditionalists. 😉
Sure, rechargeable batteries indeed have a lower capacity in lower temperatures. But that's why they're interchangeable in case they run low. Non-rechargeable batteries are less affected by low temperatures.
And as far as temperature sensitivity goes - even mechanical cameras can fail under extreme conditions. But that's rather a question of the quality of mechanical sealing - a problem the M9 has in common with its analog brethren.
I've been using cameras that run on non-rechargeable batteries for 30 years. Not one has ever failed on me. You just need to follow the normal, common sense precautions described above.
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