squirrel$$$bandit
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For those of you who are balking at the price of a 58mm UV/IR cut for your Nokton 1.1, I just got one, brand Marumi, from eBay. $55 with free shipping from HK.
Looks like it's working!
Looks like it's working!
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jlindstrom
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What's wrong with Leica filters?
Good to know. Marumi, like many manufacturers, probably has the "premium" line and the lower-cost filters. I have some good Marumi filters, but was disappointed by their 40mm filters for the Canon. I suspect it was a limited run, not a regular line.
Can you post some pictures of the filter as well?
Can you post some pictures of the filter as well?
jlindstrom
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Every day we learn something new 
Thanks for sharing the info, I for one didn't know this. I'll be sure to get b+w filters instead of Leicas when I get the UV/IR cuts for my 21 zeiss.. so far I've been getting along with the 2 Leica supplied free filters.
//Juha
Thanks for sharing the info, I for one didn't know this. I'll be sure to get b+w filters instead of Leicas when I get the UV/IR cuts for my 21 zeiss.. so far I've been getting along with the 2 Leica supplied free filters.//Juha
squirrel$$$bandit
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I read somewhere that one of the filters--I can't remember if it's the Leica one or the B&W--has a problem mounting on the Nokton...there aren't enough threads, or something, and the hood spins freely on the filter. This one, everything is tight.
Not sure if it's multicoated--Brian, let me take a pic of it.
EDIT: ok, here are pics...I doubt it's multicoated, but I'm not especially concerned, being as I almost always use this lens indoors, for low light work.
Not sure if it's multicoated--Brian, let me take a pic of it.
EDIT: ok, here are pics...I doubt it's multicoated, but I'm not especially concerned, being as I almost always use this lens indoors, for low light work.
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That looks much nicer than the line of Marumi filters that I picked up.
I've got a 39, 40.5, 46, 52, and 62 in or coming in and a 43 on order. I've used the Tiffen Hot Mirror Filters for years with the old DSLR's. I'll be using the Tiffen 52 on my Nikkor 10.5cm F2.5. I need to add a 55 and 48. Of course, I'll also dig into the step-up rings.
I've got a 39, 40.5, 46, 52, and 62 in or coming in and a 43 on order. I've used the Tiffen Hot Mirror Filters for years with the old DSLR's. I'll be using the Tiffen 52 on my Nikkor 10.5cm F2.5. I need to add a 55 and 48. Of course, I'll also dig into the step-up rings.
I've also seen the "consumer grade" Tiffen line. The Hot Mirror filters that I have go back to the DCS200 days, 1993. They have held up well and have been good optically. I keep one on the 60/2.8 AF-Micro-Nikkor on the Nikon E3. I use the Hot Mirror on the DCS200ir "on occasion". Somewhere I have shots using it with a super-brite IR LED running at 980nm. It did a good job of cutting the signal. I need to find those shots, done with a modified Coolpix 950.
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All of the filters that I am ordering are B+W. Remember the Cat and Dog advertisement for filters that they ran in the early 1990s? I kept it posted in my office.
squirrel$$$bandit
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Ha, I bet you are! I assume you're ordering, like, thirty of these?
My other UR/IR filters are indeed B&W, including a 34mm one for the Summar...I was surprised it was made in this size.
Funny thing- I ordered Ten Schneider multicoated UV filters from Tony. He gave me a GREAT price on them! I have close to 30 lenses that use 40.5mm...
D&A
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MabelSound Wrote...>>>"I read somewhere that one of the filters--I can't remember if it's the Leica one or the B&W--has a problem mounting on the Nokton...there aren't enough threads, or something, and the hood spins freely on the filter. This one, everything is tight."<<<
Hi,
I believe I was the original poster who addressed the issue of the Nokton 50mm f1.1 hood not screwing in and tightening on each and every B+W UVIR filter I tried. Others I've talked to since found the same thing. So between us all, not a single hood and/or single 58mm B+W UVIR filter worked together. Yet, any other 58mm filter including regular B+W UV filters worked perfectly with the Nokton 50mm f1.1 hood...go figure! One way I got around this was using the optional VC vented hood for the 50mm f1.1 lens...which not only works perfectly with the 58mm B+W UVIR filter but the vented hood shows considerably more of the frame through the cameras viewfinder than the standard hood.
Dave (D&A)
Hi,
I believe I was the original poster who addressed the issue of the Nokton 50mm f1.1 hood not screwing in and tightening on each and every B+W UVIR filter I tried. Others I've talked to since found the same thing. So between us all, not a single hood and/or single 58mm B+W UVIR filter worked together. Yet, any other 58mm filter including regular B+W UV filters worked perfectly with the Nokton 50mm f1.1 hood...go figure! One way I got around this was using the optional VC vented hood for the 50mm f1.1 lens...which not only works perfectly with the 58mm B+W UVIR filter but the vented hood shows considerably more of the frame through the cameras viewfinder than the standard hood.
Dave (D&A)
D&A
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They were the regular type thickness, not slim, B+W UVIR filters. I don't have it on me at the moment, but I think theyr were the F-Pro. What perplexed me and eventually most others was that every single other 58mm filter by anyone including all other 58mm B+W filters worked perfectly with 50mm f1.1 hood. Conversely, the B+W 58mm UVIR filter allowed every sungle 58mm screw hood and 58mm filter by anyone to screw into it. It was for whatever reason, the specific (and I mean specific) combination of the 50mm f1.1 hood screwed into a B+W 58mm UVIr, that didn't work. The hood would screw and reach the end of travle but then would never tighten up and screw round and round.
Beleive it or not, inside the 50mm f1.1 hood are threads (to allow the lens cap to catch onto....these threads actually accept a filter, although The instruction book for the lens says not to screw a filter into these threads. One work around is to screw the B+W 58mm UVIR into these threads but that leaves a big distances between the front element of the lens and the filter...as one can imagine. The other work around is to purchase the optional vented hood...which is great. Of course the 3rd work around is to use a different brand of UVIR filter. Leica does not make a 58mm one.
I believe some of those that say their 58mm B+W UVIR works with their 50mm f1.1...actually screwed their filter into the threads inside the lens hood, rather than the lens. I've seen two cases of this already. A bit strange indeed.
Dave (D&A)
Beleive it or not, inside the 50mm f1.1 hood are threads (to allow the lens cap to catch onto....these threads actually accept a filter, although The instruction book for the lens says not to screw a filter into these threads. One work around is to screw the B+W 58mm UVIR into these threads but that leaves a big distances between the front element of the lens and the filter...as one can imagine. The other work around is to purchase the optional vented hood...which is great. Of course the 3rd work around is to use a different brand of UVIR filter. Leica does not make a 58mm one.
I believe some of those that say their 58mm B+W UVIR works with their 50mm f1.1...actually screwed their filter into the threads inside the lens hood, rather than the lens. I've seen two cases of this already. A bit strange indeed.
Dave (D&A)
D&A
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Yes, it is weird...and what makes it more so, is based on the combination of things thrown at both products (the 50mm f1.1 hood and B+W 58mm UVIR filter)..that work perfectly with either one in any combination....just not those two specific products together...has one scratching their head. No way at the moment to tell which threads are the offending ones. They both work perfectly with all other products (filters, step rings etc.)...and even other B+W 58mm filters (other than their UVIR) work fine too with the hood. It's possible that maybe just recently released B+W UVIR filters now work...who knows....or maybe there we're a batch of old(er) B+W 58mm UVIR filters that worked..but I haven't yet heard of a single case.
As I previously mentioned, some who say their B+W 58mm UVIR filter and standard hood are working together...happen to screw the filter not directly onto te lens (and then tried screwing the hood into the filter)....but screwed the filter into those set of threads that reside "inside" the hood..which although seems to work...isn't made for screwing in filters, according to small instructions that comes with the lens.
Dave (D&A)
As I previously mentioned, some who say their B+W 58mm UVIR filter and standard hood are working together...happen to screw the filter not directly onto te lens (and then tried screwing the hood into the filter)....but screwed the filter into those set of threads that reside "inside" the hood..which although seems to work...isn't made for screwing in filters, according to small instructions that comes with the lens.
Dave (D&A)
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Lord Fluff
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I've just picked up an M8 and a Nokton f1.1 and was wondering - could I use one of the free Leica filters I can claim, along with a step-up ring? Presumably the cropped sensor would mean this wouldn't create any vignetting...?
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
D&A
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Yes you can! I've tried both the Leica 55mm as well as their 60mm UVIR filters via a step ring and they work perfectly with no corner issues (due to cropped sensor)....even when shooting a blue sky at min apature with lens set to closest focusing distance.
*** I also came across new info regarding the problem of using the B+W 58mm UVIR filter with the original hood (issue described above). I ordered the optional LH-7 vented hood for this lens...which comes in two parts...a ring that screws into the B+W 58mm UVIR ad then a vented hood that attaches (tightens) via a small knewled knob) to this screw in ring. It works perfectly with the B+W 58mm UVIR filter unlike the original hood. As an added benifit, this hood relaly improves the view through the viewfinder of both the M8 and M9. Hood is not cheap but in this case it turned out to be well worth it, not only solving the B+W 58mm UVIR problem, but to the shooting experience through the viewfinder.
Dave (D&A)
*** I also came across new info regarding the problem of using the B+W 58mm UVIR filter with the original hood (issue described above). I ordered the optional LH-7 vented hood for this lens...which comes in two parts...a ring that screws into the B+W 58mm UVIR ad then a vented hood that attaches (tightens) via a small knewled knob) to this screw in ring. It works perfectly with the B+W 58mm UVIR filter unlike the original hood. As an added benifit, this hood relaly improves the view through the viewfinder of both the M8 and M9. Hood is not cheap but in this case it turned out to be well worth it, not only solving the B+W 58mm UVIR problem, but to the shooting experience through the viewfinder.
Dave (D&A)
semordnilap
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Sorry to take this aside... anyone know if one brand or another has fewer of the 'internal reflections' on the M8–the green ones that come from point sources? I seem to get them with both leica and B+W.
Thanks.
Thanks.
semordnilap
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Yeah, that's what I figured. Just wondering if anyone had better luck with one brand over another. It's because the filter isn't coated on the inside, correct?
semordnilap
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Anyway, it's too bad, because the situations I've found most likely to produce the reflections are the ones most in need of ir blocking!
Spavinaw
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There was a link to a test of sixteen different UV filters about a week ago. I've tried every way I know how to find a direct link I can post here, but none of them work (I'm not too smart at this). Anyway, if interested, go back to the topics listed as "1 week ago" and find the subject "Hoya HMC UV(0) vs. HMC UV(C)?". In the third post there is a link you can click onto take you to the lenstip test site.