may have finally lost it - selling D700 and M8 just to get an M9

yossarian123

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This decision has been coming for a while. Ever since I bought my M8 the D700 has been sitting there unused. It hasn't seen any action at all in a couple of months, not a single frame. Even before my M8 I was using it less and less in favor of film M bodies. So now I've got this expensive unused digital SLR and I'm thinking to myself that it makes no sense to have this pile of (potential) cash sitting on my shelf. Why not sell it (plus a lens), plus my M8? then I'd have just enough cash to buy an M9 and call it a day. It sounds pretty reasonable until I repeat it in my head - then it sounds kind of crazy.

Has anyone else here gone from D700 to M9? Any regrets that I should be aware of? I think I would miss the idea of my D700 more than I'd miss the actual camera since it's not being used.
 
... Has anyone else here gone from D700 to M9? Any regrets that I should be aware of? I think I would miss the idea of my D700 more than I'd miss the actual camera since it's not being used.

Not specifically from D700 to M9, but my DSLR and SLR kit has been sitting completely idle all year. I'd rather work with the M9 or the Bessa III right now, so I should probably put SLRs up for sale and done with it. Better to have the money in the bank to go traveling with.
 
I've not shot a single frame with an SLR of any kind since getting my M7 in 2006.

To the high ISO clowns: Get a life. Those of us over 30 were crazed by ISO 3200 when it appeared, then realized that 800, 1000 or (gasp) 1600 really was plenty fast 99.9% of the time. Oh right, not when you need f22 at 2am in some cave somewhere...
 
The M9 just put in the classifieds looks like a great deal, if you can negotiate a payment method that protects you. Then you wouldn't need to sell the lens. When I switched from the M8 to the M9 it was a revelation, the FF sensor and using lenses as they're designed made a big difference. Good luck, Bob.
 
I've not shot a single frame with an SLR of any kind since getting my M7 in 2006.

To the high ISO clowns: Get a life. Those of us over 30 were crazed by ISO 3200 when it appeared, then realized that 800, 1000 or (gasp) 1600 really was plenty fast 99.9% of the time. Oh right, not when you need f22 at 2am in some cave somewhere...

High speed and sports photography require a high enough ISO to allow very fast shutter speeds. Simply because YOU do not need high ISO does not automatically extend that need to everybody else. I also personally know a large number of folks OVER 30 who melt away just by looking at high ISO shots from today's FF DSLRs.
 
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Plus-X at ISO 125...
 
I've not shot a single frame with an SLR of any kind since getting my M7 in 2006.

To the high ISO clowns: Get a life. Those of us over 30 were crazed by ISO 3200 when it appeared, then realized that 800 or 1000 really was plenty fast 99.9% of the time. Oh right, not when you need f22 at 2am in some cave somewhere...

LOL! but I do agree.

The film I've used in the Bessa III*so far is ASA 100. And that's with an f/3.5 lens. This notion that the only thing that matters is whether my camera can distinguish a black cat in a coal field at midnight on a moonless night is a little too much.
 
High speed and sports photography require a high enough ISO to allow very fast shutter speeds. Simply because YOU do not need high ISO does not automatically extend that need to everybody else. I also personally know a large number of folks OVER 30 who melt away just by looking at high ISO shots from today's FF DSLRs.

High speed and sports photography ... are not the sorts of things that people considering replacing their DSLR for a Leica M are most apt to do. ;-)

That said:


Keith McKay @ Sulby Bridge - Isle of Man, Manx GP 2000
Leica M6TTL, Elmarit-M 90mm f/2.8
ISO 200 @ f/8 @ 1/125 second (or thereabouts)
 
I've not shot a single frame with an SLR of any kind since getting my M7 in 2006.

To the high ISO clowns: Get a life. Those of us over 30 were crazed by ISO 3200 when it appeared, then realized that 800, 1000 or (gasp) 1600 really was plenty fast 99.9% of the time. Oh right, not when you need f22 at 2am in some cave somewhere...



Due to necessity I use my D700 predominantly in the ISO 3200 to 6400 range. Thanks for your generalisation.

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High speed and sports photography ... are not the sorts of things that people considering replacing their DSLR for a Leica M are most apt to do. ;-)

That wasn't the point. I was simply replying to somebody, who was making a general claim that all photographers over the age of 30 consider high ISO to be unnecessary, and anybody who has a need for it or talks about it is a "clown".
 
I also personally know a large number of folks OVER 30 who melt away just by looking at high ISO shots from today's FF DSLRs.

Higher ISO than 800 or 1600 is vastly over-rated. The situations when it might matter are extremely small, and for years and years many of us made due in fine fashion without having ISO 3200 or more. Not saying that it isn't the bees knees being able to shoot at ISO 3200, just saying that basing a purchase on something that you'll need rarely at most is foolish. Better not buy anything but a full-size pick-up truck because I mighty have to move sometime in the next five years...

And anyone trying to use an M9 to shoot sports is not going to be very happy most of the time.
 
This notion that the only thing that matters is whether my camera can distinguish a black cat in a coal field at midnight on a moonless night is a little too much.

Thank you. You understand my point. All this concern that ISO isn't high enough when 1600 allows one to shoot in most ANY situation acceptably is a gear-head/tech-geeks silliness in my opinion. Feel free to consider me a fool, many do. I shoot film as much as I do the M9 :eek:

I also have been seen shooting with an 8x10 camera, at (gasp) ISO 50. WTF?
 
So now after firing off the insults you offer a rational, sensible and polite point of view!

Better late than never I guess. :D
 
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