Huss
Veteran
Their lenses labelled Made in Germany were actually made in China or Russia...
New owners are going to clean up their act
https://camerajabber.com/meyer-opti...urnus-lenses-modified-russian-chinese-optics/
New owners are going to clean up their act
https://camerajabber.com/meyer-opti...urnus-lenses-modified-russian-chinese-optics/
zuiko85
Veteran
Weren't the prices very high on these lenses? Seems like I remember around the $1K range for some of their offerings.
Also sad that a lot of backers of their Kickstarter campaigns lost their money since they folded.
Also sad that a lot of backers of their Kickstarter campaigns lost their money since they folded.
Huss
Veteran
It was $3000 for the 50 .95
http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2017/...nd-the-mitakon-speedmaster-50-0-95-same-lens/
http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2017/...nd-the-mitakon-speedmaster-50-0-95-same-lens/
The Meyer Optik Nocturnus is indeed made in Germany. It looks and yes indeed feels better in the hand when shooting. It is silky smooth, and the build feels just as good as ANY Leica lens. Fact.
xayraa33
rangefinder user and fancier
Short term thinking and being scam masters fly-by-nights, like the recent Yashica y35 debacle is not sustainable for long term profit once the fleecing ripoff is exposed.. and that is fast and easy to do in the internet age.
For the prices they want to charge having lenses designed and made in Germany would still leave a healthy profit margin, but greed and want of ease are too strong a pulling factor.
For the prices they want to charge having lenses designed and made in Germany would still leave a healthy profit margin, but greed and want of ease are too strong a pulling factor.
FrozenInTime
Well-known
Seems clear the optical cell or lens elements were from Chinese or Russian lenses.
If, in a German workshop, they repackaged them in new shells and changed the aperture mechanism, does not that assembly then legitimately become made in Germany.
If, in a German workshop, they repackaged them in new shells and changed the aperture mechanism, does not that assembly then legitimately become made in Germany.
DominikDUK
Well-known
Seems clear the optical cell or lens elements were from Chinese or Russian lenses.
If, in a German workshop, they repackaged them in new shells and changed the aperture mechanism, does not that assembly then legitimately become made in Germany.
In reality Made in German is rarely 100% made in Germany what counts is the value added if the value added is mostly added in Germany than you can call your product made in Germany. Weird but no different in Austria and many other countries. The components can be from anywhere but if it's assembled or at least partially assembeled in Germany it's made in Germany.
Archlich
Well-known
For the prices they want to charge having lenses designed and made in Germany would still leave a healthy profit margin, but greed and want of ease are too strong a pulling factor.
Which raises a curious question: who in Germany would fit the job of doing it from scratch, should they have done it honestly?
nukecoke
⚛Yashica
On the other hand, it probably wouldn't be your 78 yo Hans von Reinhard assembling the lens while playing Franz Schubert in the background, even if it's Made in Germany.
Made in Germany or not, using "Made in Germany" to justify the overpricing is just meh in 2019.
Made in Germany or not, using "Made in Germany" to justify the overpricing is just meh in 2019.
xayraa33
rangefinder user and fancier
Which raises a curious question: who in Germany would fit the job of doing it from scratch, should they have done it honestly?
Even if this consortium could not find anyone in Germany to do the manufacturing, I would surmise that the lens design and specs are doable in Germany, if the price is right.
The manufacturing could be done Voigtländer or even in a Zeiss style in Japan by Cosina or by any other quality Japanese optical firm that meets the specified specs and mandated quality control .
I am also aware these days this might be also done in China if quality is stressed and paid for in labour and materials, no different than Nikon or Fuji or Canon or Toyota or Volvo or Eastman guitars etc. building quality products in China that are sold around the world at the going prices for quality and well known name brands.
It is a shame that these famous old time camera and lens firms, be they German or Japanese, like Yashica are used and degraded just to con the public and for a quick buck or euro or yen or yuan for quick and short sighted profit.
pluton
Well-known
Anyone who is not naive spotted this fraud the moment it was announced.Their lenses labelled Made in Germany were actually made in China or Russia...
New owners are going to clean up their act
https://camerajabber.com/meyer-opti...urnus-lenses-modified-russian-chinese-optics/
NY_Dan
Well-known
What does all this matter if most of the people buying said lenses are crappy photographers who spend too much time worrying about gear specs that they can't put to good use?
Popcorn!
BillBingham2
Registered User
Sounds like a future collector's item.....
B2 (;->
B2 (;->
iphoenix
Well-known
What does all this matter if most of the people buying said lenses are crappy photographers who spend too much time worrying about gear specs that they can't put to good use?Popcorn!
I'm a "crappy photographer", but hope that one day, my ability once again reaches the ability of my camera and lens. "Popcorn"? No!
Teemō1
Member
Sounds like a future collector's item.....
B2 (;->
Mathieu Stern was sent a prototype lens from Meyer Optik to review and got to keep it because they wanted him to wait longer before uploading any review... and then they folded. lol.
HHPhoto
Well-known
Their lenses labelled Made in Germany were actually made in China or Russia...
No, that is wrong in that generalisation!
Only the Somnium and Nocturnus were made in Russia / China.
All other lenses were made in Germany.
The new Meyer Optik Görlitz company will made all their lenses in Germany.
Have a look at the original source:
https://www.photoscala.de/2019/02/27/meyer-optik-goerlitz-neu-gestartet/
Cheers, Jan
HHPhoto
Well-known
Which raises a curious question: who in Germany would fit the job of doing it from scratch, should they have done it honestly?
There are lots of optic factories in Germany who can do this.
The new owner (and former supplier) OPC Optics included.
E.g. one of their partners for assembly of some of their lenses has been Maerz in Hamburg. Some time ago they have even invited film photographers for a factory visit there, people have seen the production of Meyer Optik lenses there.
The new Meyer Optik Görlitz company has said that they want to continue cooperation with the German partners.
Cheers, Jan
DanskDynamit
Well-known
oh Please... Leica does the same and nobody cries around.
davidnewtonguitars
Family Snaps
I'm a crappy photographer, but want to own the finest my wife will allow me to buy!
What does all this matter if most of the people buying said lenses are crappy photographers who spend too much time worrying about gear specs that they can't put to good use?Popcorn!
Huss
Veteran
oh Please... Leica does the same and nobody cries around.
It was the new owners of Meyer Optik that brought this up and said it was unacceptable.
Abbazz
6x9 and be there!
Many "Swiss" watches feature Chinese made components. Only the final assembly is done in Switzerland and then the price is set according to the "Swiss made" label. But nobody calls it a fraud...
I guess this is what happens when some people are ready to pay through the nose only to get a label.
Cheers!
Abbazz
I guess this is what happens when some people are ready to pay through the nose only to get a label.
Cheers!
Abbazz
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