Meyer Optik Goerlitz fraud!

[xayraa33]

Many "Swiss" watches feature Chinese made components. Only the final assembly is done in Switzerland and then the price is set according to the "Swiss made" label. But nobody calls it a fraud...

I guess this is what happens when some people are ready to pay through the nose only to get a label.

Cheers!

Abbazz

That is a wide spread practice for most big brand name manufactured goods, be it cars , motorcycles and appliances and power tools.

Some just cut the pretence and actually say made in China or Vietnam or Indonesia, just peruse the labels on the old time brand power tools, like Black and Decker or Bosch in your neighbourhood big box stores.

 

[Huss]

Triumph motorcycles factory in the UK where they built their Bonneville series was destroyed by a fire. I think 20 years ago? Instead of rebuilding it they moved production to Thailand.
At least those bikes say Thairumph on their gas tanks...

 

[xayraa33]

Triumph motorcycles factory in the UK where they built their Bonneville series was destroyed by a fire. I think 20 years ago? Instead of rebuilding it they moved production to Thailand.
At least those bikes say Thairumph on their gas tanks...

Probably better made bikes than the UK made ones in the good old days, that came with the mandatory oil drip from the crankcase, typical of most classic British made motorcycles 😀

 

[jsrockit]

Their lenses labelled Made in Germany were actually made in China or Russia...

New owners are going to clean up their act

https://camerajabber.com/meyer-opti...urnus-lenses-modified-russian-chinese-optics/

I don't necessarily think the issue is that they were made in China or Russia. That's one thing when claiming German made... BUT I thought, maybe inaccurately, that these were simply cheap Chinese or Russian lenses that they modified and called Meyer Optik...and sold for a lot of $$$.

 

[Huss]

The issue wasnt with using chinese sourced items to make their lenses, but essentially repackaging existing chinese lenses and saying they were expensive german lenses.

 

[ptpdprinter]

The issue wasnt with using chinese sourced items to make their lenses, but essentially repackaging existing chinese lenses and saying they were expensive german lenses.

And they still went bankrupt.

 

[Huss]

And they still went bankrupt.

because people saw through that and did not believe them. they could see the .95 was a rebadge Mitakon for example.

 

[dourbalistar]

because people saw through that and did not believe them. they could see the .95 was a rebadge Mitakon for example.

Took the Mitakon and turned it into a mighty con. 😀

 

[dourbalistar]

I wonder how many companies are transparent about their supply/manufacturing chain. I think I've seen some Sony digicams and lenses that say "Assembled in Thailand" or some such. Patagonia comes close, although I'm sure there's some marketing mixed in. They show where their raw materials are sourced, and which factories assemble and sew their clothing:
https://www.patagonia.com/footprint.html

 

[Goody]

Probably better made bikes than the UK made ones in the good old days, that came with the mandatory oil drip from the crankcase, typical of most classic British made motorcycles 😀

You forgot the old Triumph speciality of bolts loosening and parts falling off on the highway! But I do miss my 1966 500 twin....

 

[css9450]

The issue wasnt with using chinese sourced items to make their lenses, but essentially repackaging existing chinese lenses and saying they were expensive german lenses.

Well, yes, the box probably was made in Germany. Same situation for all those "Germany" Leica M10s.

 

[retinax]

It was the new owners of Meyer Optik that brought this up and said it was unacceptable.

Oof, new owners? What exactly did they buy, a couple boxes of the Chinese lenses and the name rights? I'm afraid the brand name is burned, it didn't even have much of a ring to it before this con... they'd be much better off starting from scratch.

 

[Huss]

Well, yes, the box probably was made in Germany. Same situation for all those "Germany" Leica M10s.

not at all. what camera did Leica rebadge and call it the Leica M10?
Leica sources the parts from wherever (as does everyone) and assembles in Germany.
The meyer lenses in question were essentially rebadged mitakons.

 

[Huss]

You forgot the old Triumph speciality of bolts loosening and parts falling off on the highway! But I do miss my 1966 500 twin....

Triumphs dont leak. They mark their spot.

 

[Rob Holland]

"Triumphs dont leak. They mark their spot."

I don't post often, but just have to say that made me laugh out loud. Thanks for a good laugh!

Rob

 

[DanskDynamit]

not at all. what camera did Leica rebadge and call it the Leica M10?
Leica sources the parts from wherever (as does everyone) and assembles in Germany.
The meyer lenses in question were essentially rebadged mitakons.

as far as I know, the "final" assembly is made in Germany, how "final" I dont know but I'm sure its not 100% as there are many videos from their factory in Portugal doing most of the job. All they need to use the label "made in Germany" is to finish the product in Germany.

 

[nzeeman]

i don't understand the problem here-of all lenses they have on site just those two were rebadged,right? the other ones are their designs... so not a big difference than anyone else... leica constantly claim their names on various digital cameras and phones and evsn they did on old p&s from 80s till now, and nobody was so angry . everyone even pretend not to notice that they just use random lenses.. remember digilux 1? 🙂

 

[css9450]

as far as I know, the "final" assembly is made in Germany, how "final" I dont know but I'm sure its not 100% as there are many videos from their factory in Portugal doing most of the job. All they need to use the label "made in Germany" is to finish the product in Germany.

Leica released a video which shows them at the factory in Germany applying the leatherette onto the camera, so there's that.... And the box.

 

[DanskDynamit]

^ exactly. Proper modern "Made in Germany" 😀

 

[kram]

You normally get the quality parts made in a high cost country and assemble in a low cost (because it takes time to do). Having cheap parts assembled in a high cost country ???? You get the worst of both worlds imho. A least Leica used a well respected manufacture to rebadged (like the rest of you I think it is not great).