Harry Lime
Practitioner
Al Kaplan
Veteran
Does it have an optical viewfinder? Looks interesting!
Al Kaplan
Veteran
I hope that it has two built in programs: Tri-X and Kodachrome II.
Darkhorse
pointed and shot
Looks beautiful. If they come out with a fast lens for it I may be sold.
Jamie Pillers
Skeptic
No optical viewfinder. :-(
Jamie Pillers
Skeptic
There's another thread here somewhere that points to a website with a couple more photos, including the back... which has the typical LCD screen & button configuration of most little P&S cameras. And apparently the price is going to be in the $1000 range for body and lens!
hiromu
Established
Looks interesting...
ishpop
tall person
The new 21mm Summilux 1.4 becomes a 42mm 1.4, ridiculously sharp one at that. lol. I doubt anyone will make this pairing, but would be interesting to see the result.
Al Kaplan
Veteran
A quick handling camera REQUIRES an optical viewfinder, especially if it has the typical lag time of cameras with LCD screens. At least it has an accessory shoe.
Avotius
Some guy
again with the viewfinder...I guess either people are really hopeful for this to be something it isn't, ie. a digi CL, or they can't be bothered to notice this compact camera concept which the big point of was removing the mirror and prisim array to greatly reduce size while using LCD's for viewing as has become the more and more accepted way of use in the last 10 years. Don't have any delusions that this was going to be the miricle answer of the cheap compact digital rangefinder we wish for.
Avotius
Some guy
A quick handling camera REQUIRES an optical viewfinder, especially if it has the typical lag time of cameras with LCD screens. At least it has an accessory shoe.
It's funny you mention this because of a thought I have had in my head recently as I searched for a new camera to replace my Ricoh GRD. A couple weeks ago I was having dinner with a Magnum photographer and he noticed I had a GRD and mentioned that a lot of people at Magnum used them and there were a few photographer with them that only use GRD's.
GRD's are by no means the fastest cameras around by any measure, in fact in many areas they are the slowest cameras around...kind of makes you think...in the high presure environments they work in, if it's good enough for them.....
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alien8
Established
I've yet come across any photos of the back... do you have a link to that?There's another thread here somewhere that points to a website with a couple more photos, including the back... which has the typical LCD screen & button configuration of most little P&S cameras. And apparently the price is going to be in the $1000 range for body and lens!
jke
Well-known
I'll buy one. What's 17mm in dog years? 34mm? I have a 35mm finder I can stink in that shoe. Turn off the LCD and blast away. I've shot film long enough I don't need the LCD on all the time. Maybe just to check or review, but once I get a sense of what's happening, a finder is all that's needed.
Whadyathink? $550?
Whadyathink? $550?
dazedgonebye
Veteran
I'll buy one. What's 17mm in dog years? 34mm? I have a 35mm finder I can stink in that shoe. Turn off the LCD and blast away. I've shot film long enough I don't need the LCD on all the time. Maybe just to check or review, but once I get a sense of what's happening, a finder is all that's needed.
Whadyathink? $550?
I've often thought, that with a reasonably trustworthy AF system, an external finder would be the way to go on a camera like this.
Very fast for street shooting and general snaps.
ishpop
tall person
Yeah throw on an external finder and configure the AF to hatever fastest setting it has and have fun with your new digi that actually isn't a big chunk of a camera.
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
again with the viewfinder...I guess either people are really hopeful for this to be something it isn't, ie. a digi CL, or they can't be bothered to notice this compact camera concept which the big point of was removing the mirror and prisim array to greatly reduce size while using LCD's for viewing as has become the more and more accepted way of use in the last 10 years. Don't have any delusions that this was going to be the miricle answer of the cheap compact digital rangefinder we wish for.
You're getting it wrong here, IMHO. I have not seen anybody mention a digital CL on these Oly threads but you.
Seems nobody is looking at this system because it allowns for removing mirror boxes and prism housings either, because we all agree camera's can be made without them.
People are looking for a true descendant of the Olympus Pens from the sixties, and they all had an optical viewfinder. The experience of shooting this new Oly just will not be the same as it was in the sixties, seventies and eighties shooting a Pen. I started photographing as a kid shooting a Pen-EE and if this camera would feel anything like it I would buy it, for that trip down memory lane alone already.
Shooting a Pen means holding to your eye. Not waving it around at arms length.
Oly should have an external EVF that mounts and electrically connects via the hot shoe.
An optical VF works although the aspect ratio isn't 4:3.
An optical VF works although the aspect ratio isn't 4:3.
emraphoto
Veteran
Optical finder in the hotshoe, utilize the depth of field and go nutty. Hold it up to your eye, over your head or poke someone in the ear with it.
What will really be a selling point for me (and I am most certainly VERY interested) will be it's ability to handle dynamic range.A larger sensor seems to lean in that direction.
What will really be a selling point for me (and I am most certainly VERY interested) will be it's ability to handle dynamic range.A larger sensor seems to lean in that direction.
Al Patterson
Ferroequinologist
You're getting it wrong here, IMHO. I have not seen anybody mention a digital CL on these Oly threads but you.
Seems nobody is looking at this system because it allowns for removing mirror boxes and prism housings either, because we all agree camera's can be made without them.
People are looking for a true descendant of the Olympus Pens from the sixties, and they all had an optical viewfinder. The experience of shooting this new Oly just will not be the same as it was in the sixties, seventies and eighties shooting a Pen. I started photographing as a kid shooting a Pen-EE and if this camera would feel anything like it I would buy it, for that trip down memory lane alone already.
Shooting a Pen means holding to your eye. Not waving it around at arms length.
While I would love to have a digital CL, if this camera could use my Leica glass via an adapter, I would be happy. I don't usually use the LCD to compose my shots, but could learn if I had to.
Trius
Waiting on Maitani
A quick handling camera REQUIRES an optical viewfinder, especially if it has the typical lag time of cameras with LCD screens. At least it has an accessory shoe.
It won't have the lag time of a P&S. It's a DSL -- no R since there is no mirror. If anything, it will be as responsive as anything else.
With the crop factor, using zone focus/snapshot mode should be a very practical option. So an external optical VF (with correct aspect ratio,) is logical for the serious shooter.
The affluent casual shooter, unhappy with P&S quality and lag time, is already comfortable with using the LCD to compose. That's a huge market.
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