Larry Cloetta
Veteran
Not sure if this has been posted before, but here is a (another) potential new film processor. Out of New Zealand from an aerospace engineer who apparently recognizes the primacy of good midtones, always a good sign.
As always, the odds are stacked against anyone developing, manufacturing, and marketing a viable and superior processor in today’s market, but this project seems better thought out than the Filmomat, to me at least.
Only posting in case someone might find it interesting, as he doesn’t seem to have much exposure here.
There are internal links on the homepage which gives more information on the thinking behind the design.
One always hopes for the emergence of the better, and/or more affordable mousetrap.
http://midtonemachines.com/
As always, the odds are stacked against anyone developing, manufacturing, and marketing a viable and superior processor in today’s market, but this project seems better thought out than the Filmomat, to me at least.
Only posting in case someone might find it interesting, as he doesn’t seem to have much exposure here.
There are internal links on the homepage which gives more information on the thinking behind the design.
One always hopes for the emergence of the better, and/or more affordable mousetrap.
http://midtonemachines.com/
CharlesDAMorgan
Veteran
Intriguing! I love things like this.
davidnewtonguitars
Family Snaps
Thanks for finding this Larry.
This guy is serious! My best to him, and subscribing.
This guy is serious! My best to him, and subscribing.
Andrew Burns
Member
Hey all I'm the 'creator' of Midtone Machines, got word that there was a thread here talking about it so I made an account. Thanks for the interest! If you have any questions I'm happy to answer them in the thread.
Currently designing two PCB's to act as an interface between the arduino controlling the whole thing and all of my motors, sensors etc. I was considering soldiering on with the mess of wiring I currently have but eventually decided to not waste time and go to the design solution I intend to end up with, it will take more time in the short term but I'll end up ahead in the long term.
Currently designing two PCB's to act as an interface between the arduino controlling the whole thing and all of my motors, sensors etc. I was considering soldiering on with the mess of wiring I currently have but eventually decided to not waste time and go to the design solution I intend to end up with, it will take more time in the short term but I'll end up ahead in the long term.
lynnb
Veteran
Hi Andrew, great to see this project. Hope all goes as smoothly!
Regards,
Regards,
Andrew Burns
Member
New update on my website:
http://midtonemachines.com/news/pcb-design/
Nearly finished with the custom PCB design I'm going to use to replace the current rats-nest of wires and bring the machine closer to the final production version.
http://midtonemachines.com/news/pcb-design/
Nearly finished with the custom PCB design I'm going to use to replace the current rats-nest of wires and bring the machine closer to the final production version.
Larry Cloetta
Veteran
Thanks for the update, seems to be moving right along.
Keep up the good work.
Keep up the good work.
shawn
Veteran
Looks great. Just a thought, on your breakout board make sure you have it on standoffs or some other way of raising it up. Don’t want an accidental leak submerging it.
Shawn
Shawn
Andrew Burns
Member
Looks great. Just a thought, on your breakout board make sure you have it on standoffs or some other way of raising it up. Don’t want an accidental leak submerging it.
Shawn
Yep it's going to be on standoffs, you're right I've thought about the possibility of leaks and so I'll be making sure that everything electronic that isn't fully sealed is well above the base plate. I might also look at some kind of splash cover for it in case there's a spraying leak (although I think that's less likely, the pipework will hardly deal with any pressure).
Andrew Burns
Member
New blog post is up, PCBs are finished and working fine, also put together a quick laser-cut MDF body shell for prototyping that IMO looks pretty good.
http://midtonemachines.com/news/finished-pcbs-and-dummy-body/
http://midtonemachines.com/news/finished-pcbs-and-dummy-body/
Larry Cloetta
Veteran
Thanks for the update.
Ambro51
Collector/Photographer
Anything viable to ease home processing contributes to a resurgence in film. Good Work.
Andrew Burns
Member
Another update, new custom PCBs are in and they've done a great job clearing up all the wiring mess, a much better solution for production. A few niggles with the pinch valves are holding me back a bit but I've still had the machine pumping water in and out of the developing tank with the agitation motor going. Again pretty close to being able to develop B&W film right now but I'd rather iron out all of the bugs before that.
http://midtonemachines.com/news/pcbs-integrated-and-more-cad/
http://midtonemachines.com/news/pcbs-integrated-and-more-cad/
nbagno
Established
Throwing this out there as someone who has used a JOBO for a number of years. There will be water spilled on the machine, that's a guarantee. If you haven't already, consider a gasket around the LCD bezel and any other place spilled water can land on the machine. Jobo had a retrofit to add o-rings abound the control knobs. Cheers!
Andrew Burns
Member
Throwing this out there as someone who has used a JOBO for a number of years. There will be water spilled on the machine, that's a guarantee. If you haven't already, consider a gasket around the LCD bezel and any other place spilled water can land on the machine. Jobo had a retrofit to add o-rings abound the control knobs. Cheers!
Fair point, a flat rubber gasket around the LCD and a little rubber boot over the joystick would probably be quite easy to implement and could save a lot of hassle if there's an accident. I've already spilled a fair bit of water into the machine itself so far during development so I know how likely it is...
Andrew Burns
Member
Just a short video update for today, showing the LCD screen and user interface that you'll use to operate the machine. Also the developing tank filling and draining with water while the agitation motor operates.
http://midtonemachines.com/news/short-video-update/
http://midtonemachines.com/news/short-video-update/
Andrew Burns
Member
Another update, new company logo, some new website banners, shout-outs to people who have been talking about my machine and some more progress:
http://midtonemachines.com/news/new-logo-shout-outs-and-progress/
The machine is now fully capable of processing B&W film, frankly I'm starting to run out of things to do on it which means I'm going to have to turn my attention to more 'boring' things like working out how much they cost to make and marketing/selling them...
http://midtonemachines.com/news/new-logo-shout-outs-and-progress/
The machine is now fully capable of processing B&W film, frankly I'm starting to run out of things to do on it which means I'm going to have to turn my attention to more 'boring' things like working out how much they cost to make and marketing/selling them...
Andrew Burns
Member
New blog post up and new name for the machine, it's now officially the Chromabox-4
I'm struggling with my ancient 3D printer while in isolation so I'm looking for suggestions for when I'm able to shop online again, let me know if you have an idea of what printer I should get!
http://midtonemachines.com/…/pinch-valves-heaters-and-names/
I'm struggling with my ancient 3D printer while in isolation so I'm looking for suggestions for when I'm able to shop online again, let me know if you have an idea of what printer I should get!
http://midtonemachines.com/…/pinch-valves-heaters-and-names/
Andrew Burns
Member
Managed to print enough valve parts to retrofit the prototype and the leaking is gone. I've also got the heater systems up and running nicely. Here's a really short teaser video of the Chromabox-4 in action, cycling through 6 different 'chemicals' one after the other. What you don't see is the automatic water and air flush cycles that happen between different chemicals to prevent cross-contamination (which would have been visible in the video as colour contamination between the different bottles).
https://youtu.be/-Y_88YVmjBs
https://youtu.be/-Y_88YVmjBs
kiemchacsu
Well-known
Interesting project.
Do you intend to put it into a crowd funding site?
Do you intend to put it into a crowd funding site?
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