kds315
www.macrolenses.de
Group,
any experience about these highly acclaimed Minolta CLE lenses (40/90mm) which are supposedly made bei Leitz and sold by Minolta?
any experience about these highly acclaimed Minolta CLE lenses (40/90mm) which are supposedly made bei Leitz and sold by Minolta?
AhShun
Member
The Rokkor 40 match the 35mm frameline perfectly!
Decent performance, even compared with current 50cron.
Decent performance, even compared with current 50cron.
Graham Line
Well-known
Sharpness, color rendition and contrast of the 40 and 90 M-Rokkors are excellent. The mounts are very smooth and well-made. Haven't tried them on an RD1 or had a chance to use a 28. There are examples in my gallery.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=46664&cat=500&ppuser=1085
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=46664&cat=500&ppuser=1085
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galavanter
Established
It has a timid nose with the usual notes of oak and vanilla...
It has a timid nose with the usual notes of oak and vanilla...
I just got a 40mm CL Rokkor from another member. It is my first M-mount lens and I was happy to get one for my newly acquired R-D1. I have only been using it a few days and I am not qualified to evaluate it. Just the thought of it reminded me of this cartoon:
http://www.time.com/time/cartoons/20061105/2.html
I'm still learning how to use the R-D1 with it. I did do a lot of reading up and it seems to be a great value. Many compare it to the 35 Summicron in quality. I was looking at the 35 CV and even a used Jupiter 12, but decided against the latter due to focusing issues I read about. The Rokkor is also the fastest of the three, and supposedly has better bokeh than the CV 40mm Nokton, which I also considered.The only negative for me with the Rokkor is the slightly narrower field of view. I can tell you that mine was made in Japan, as most of the CL and CLE Rokkors were, according to Stephen Gandy:
http://www.cameraquest.com/cle.htm
http://www.cameraquest.com/leicacl.htm
He also states this: "The 40/2 lenses for the CL or CLE are among the sharpest lenses I have ever used."
Never would I have thought that I would now be the proud owner of a used camera reputed to have more than its share of QC issues and a thirty year old lens to go with it.
Jim
It has a timid nose with the usual notes of oak and vanilla...
I just got a 40mm CL Rokkor from another member. It is my first M-mount lens and I was happy to get one for my newly acquired R-D1. I have only been using it a few days and I am not qualified to evaluate it. Just the thought of it reminded me of this cartoon:
http://www.time.com/time/cartoons/20061105/2.html
I'm still learning how to use the R-D1 with it. I did do a lot of reading up and it seems to be a great value. Many compare it to the 35 Summicron in quality. I was looking at the 35 CV and even a used Jupiter 12, but decided against the latter due to focusing issues I read about. The Rokkor is also the fastest of the three, and supposedly has better bokeh than the CV 40mm Nokton, which I also considered.The only negative for me with the Rokkor is the slightly narrower field of view. I can tell you that mine was made in Japan, as most of the CL and CLE Rokkors were, according to Stephen Gandy:
http://www.cameraquest.com/cle.htm
http://www.cameraquest.com/leicacl.htm
He also states this: "The 40/2 lenses for the CL or CLE are among the sharpest lenses I have ever used."
Never would I have thought that I would now be the proud owner of a used camera reputed to have more than its share of QC issues and a thirty year old lens to go with it.
Jim
kds315 said:
Flinor
Well-known
All three CLE lenses work just fine on the RD-1, including the 90 which I use with an old Canon 135 VF. The 40 seems to suit the 35 framelines better than a 35. One of the attractions of the RD-1 is that using it is just like using a CLE and I often carry them both with Scala in the CLE.
nksyoon
Well-known
Here are some samples of the CLE Rokkor 40 on an R-D1:
jrgoldman
Jay G
I have used a 28 Rokkor and it isa nice lens and very compact. It does not have the overall impact of my 35 Summicron. I tried the 28 F3.5 CV lens and the corners were black at all f stops.
Paul T.
Veteran
As others have siad, I find my 40 Summicron (essentially identical to the Rokkor) just as high quality as my 50 and 35 Summicrons, and it fits the 35mm framelines perfectly. The 90mm is also a bargain.
akptc
Shoot first, think later
Interestingly, based on Nick's examples above, it would seem that the 40mm Rokkor renders point light sources in the background somewhat similarly to the CV 40mm. I wonder if that's a "feature" of 40mm lenses?
nksyoon
Well-known
A couple more samples...
kds315
www.macrolenses.de
Thanks Nick,
I also like my 40mm + 90mm which are both quite sharp and the bokeh seems to be OK. I wonder how they compare to the CV and Zeiss ZM (just bought the 25mm).
I also like my 40mm + 90mm which are both quite sharp and the bokeh seems to be OK. I wonder how they compare to the CV and Zeiss ZM (just bought the 25mm).
Trius
Waiting on Maitani
Jim: thanks for the good info, but vanilla notes in a merlot?
galavanter
Established
LOL. But of course! Surely you jest. Wonderful tobacco aromas (a la King sized Chesterfields). Subtle, but nonetheless complex. A hint of residual sugar lifts the fruit without being cloying. Pairs well with grilled meats (tacos). Better than Mad Dog!
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Trius
Waiting on Maitani
LOL ... tobacco I get, but vanilla is rare in a merlot. The really muscular merlots remind me of Camel and Marlboro. The super-premiums are Gauloise, bien sur.
galavanter
Established
Well I've quit smoking and my palate has markedly improved. I know when I'm out of my league so I will defer to your expertise. I just know what tastes good to me. But this sipping and spitting out stuff? How boorish!
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pfogle
Well-known
well, I've spat out quite a few things, but never a 40mm Rokkor!galavanter said:Well I've quit smoking and my palate has markedly improved. I know when I'm out of my league so I will defer to your expertise. I just know what tastes good to me. But this sipping and spitting out stuff? How boorish!
By the way, there's one available for sale in Aperture in London - they want 220 GBP for it - around $400 US. That seems a bit over the top to me - a new 40/1.4 CV is only about 280 GBP. What do others here think? It's pretty rare to find a 40mm 'cron nowadays...
Adam-T
Event Photographer
I like Aperture photographic but the prices on Rangefinder and Nikon stuff is usually way over the top - they want £90 for a damn Jupiter 9 for instance !! .. As it happens, I bought three genuine Voigtlander L39/M mount adapters from them at a really good price (good even though they had no caps) but their used glass prices never ceases to amaze me, the CV stuff is either nearly as expensive as new or not cheap enough to make you want to go with used mostly..
The company themselves are excellent, I just wish they`d be more realistic on the prices of RF and Nikon Manual stuff
The company themselves are excellent, I just wish they`d be more realistic on the prices of RF and Nikon Manual stuff
pfogle
Well-known
Damn! So it was you who got the L39/M adaptersAdam-T said:
Jim Watts
Still trying to See.
Aperture is a good shop with nice guys and they do tend to give you a bit more than most if you are selling or PX-ing so perhaps their margins are not much better. The Leica version seems to be about £220 - 250 when available in London, but the Rokkor is cheaper elsewhere (and not inferior) I missed a mint one at £159 a few weeks back.
