There are some beautiful photos on this thread. Good job I`m stoney motherless broke. Rolleistef, described them as velvet like, to me they are creamy, similar to earlier Leica lenses. One of the troubles with using expired colour film is the rise in base fog level. I have shot some very expired 220 Fuji & Kodak 400 iso film and the base fog really knocks the contrast, like a thin veil over the whole image.