Darkhorse
pointed and shot
The model just emailed me back and she's pretty happy with the photos. Mission accomplished!
ReeRay
Well-known
I think they're lovely. I'd be well pleased with these. Congratulations
You guys better be covering yourself with photos of their ID, a model release, and a consent form.
I did this from the 1970's to the 1990's, but all of it was for publication or to get laid, or both.
You have no idea what can happen if a crazy girl turns on you, even on a totally innocent photoshoot. It happens all the time.
Anyway, that site modelmayhem is the greatest invention for the horny doofus every invented. It and it's ilk practically put the sex magazine industry out of business.
Reporting one's "sexy model" activities to one's fiance, especially to one who is not a model and not as sexy, is a crazy person's recipe for disaster, unless you have some sort of weirdo relationship that I find hard to contemplate.
Examine your motives, is all I have to say.
I did this from the 1970's to the 1990's, but all of it was for publication or to get laid, or both.
You have no idea what can happen if a crazy girl turns on you, even on a totally innocent photoshoot. It happens all the time.
Anyway, that site modelmayhem is the greatest invention for the horny doofus every invented. It and it's ilk practically put the sex magazine industry out of business.
Reporting one's "sexy model" activities to one's fiance, especially to one who is not a model and not as sexy, is a crazy person's recipe for disaster, unless you have some sort of weirdo relationship that I find hard to contemplate.
Examine your motives, is all I have to say.
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NathanJD
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What did your model make of the fact that you're using film? I'm on Model Mayhem and started corresponding with a young ameture model and when i mentioned that i shot film i didn't hear anything more from her. she's still on my list but i don't think many people around here 'get' it.
I think your shots are fantastic Darkhorse! especially those MF shots, perticularly the B&W ones. i really need to get my act together enough and build up the self confidence to shoot models - i really really want to do it but despite the fact that i'm outgoing and not exactly shy i do get nervous interacting with people in this way.
I think your shots are fantastic Darkhorse! especially those MF shots, perticularly the B&W ones. i really need to get my act together enough and build up the self confidence to shoot models - i really really want to do it but despite the fact that i'm outgoing and not exactly shy i do get nervous interacting with people in this way.
NathanJD
Well-known
Interesting perspective Oscar, I have found that most models in my area are married or with a partner and seem to be genuinely interested in the photo shoots. but then it does take all sorts and I have noticed this type too, but what can you do? is this not a microcosm of the internet at large?
I don't know if it's very productive to comment on the OP's personal relationships, and in any case having an open and honest relationship that is built on trust is something to be admired.
Go a little beneath the surface, pretend you're a psychologist.
What is the actual purpose of non-commercial "model shoots"?
What is the actual purpose of non-commercial "model shoots"?
Mattikk
Well-known
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Just letting you know. Google might be wrong, but just incase.
NathanJD
Well-known
Not that I want to get into a philosophical debate but what's the actual purpose of non-commercial landscape shoots, still life shots or street shots? or building model train sets? or collecting vintage photography paraphernalia?
Darkhorse
pointed and shot
Oscar's comments aren't really resonating with me.
Anyway, the model was actually interested that I used film cameras. I think using the TLR may have helped put the model at ease because it's so unusual-looking. Not just another black Canon or Nikon.
Find a model, Nathan, and get going. I'm not particularly outgoing and I'm pretty shy and even I was able to do this.
Anyway, the model was actually interested that I used film cameras. I think using the TLR may have helped put the model at ease because it's so unusual-looking. Not just another black Canon or Nikon.
Find a model, Nathan, and get going. I'm not particularly outgoing and I'm pretty shy and even I was able to do this.
NathanJD
Well-known
And of course, they come in handy as props when you're shooting some 35mm!
Thank you for your words of support Darkhorse, I will absolutely pluck up the courage sometime very soon! and i'll be sure to post my results here.
once again, well done on a very productive and fruitful first go! there is plenty there to be proud of and also to build on.
PatrickT
New Rangefinder User
Yikes! Thanks for that, I'll look into it!
Darkhorse
pointed and shot
Please do. I posted my results on the modelmayhem board and the main criticism was I need to use a fill flash or reflector (which is understandable I guess), some of them were badly cropped (in shots where there was no cropping), and the shadows are too harsh... particularly the black and white shots (which I didn't really understand... am I supposed to drench every shot with a flash?). One commented that every shot was nearly ruined because of her shoes. Another was totally useless and said "They're OK".
I think RFF is more constructive is what I'm 'saying.
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Pherdinand
the snow must go on
that's funny to hear, since there is not one single comment here that says more than "wow great shots".
Where's exactly the constructive part in it?
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
btw the shots are fine but i also dislike her shoes...
Tuolumne
Veteran
Aren't the shoes more of a fashion-taste issue than a photographic issue? Maybe she wanted to be shot wearing those shoes. I found them unobjectionable, especially in an outdoorsey setting that favors casual clothing.
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Darkhorse
pointed and shot
that's funny to hear, since there is not one single comment here that says more than "wow great shots".
Where's exactly the constructive part in it?
Maybe you're right. Maybe I'm just looking for ego stroking. Which can be good for a first time thing like this, because it's encouraging.
It's not that I can't handle criticism (I went to art school after all), but the MM comments (some of which were OK) that irked me gave me no indication of what I'm doing right and where can I expand. The harshest criticism seemed to come from photographers who I personally thought weren't very good myself. But maybe that's an irrational and competitive voice inside me saying "This know-nothing clearly doesn't know how brilliant I am! PAH!".
And I guess the shoes aren't really appropriate for the scene. But she wanted em in so I shot em.
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NathanJD
Well-known
well on this forum we tend not to follow all the rules all the time. i would say though that a reflector might have picked the dark areas up a little but hey!! that's something to work on for next time! constructive criticism is the key.
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
sure they are. but since it was brought up, i thought to be constructive and say my oppinion
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
i also like it when people encourage me. Definitely. Makes my day, sometimes, if i get a compliment (on my shots, i mean). Especially since it happens so damn rarely.
But i won't call it constructive criticism, that's all
But i won't call it constructive criticism, that's all
Tuolumne
Veteran
There are some very constructive remarks in the comments section of the gallery where the photos have been posted.
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