Monitor Profiler... necessary?

SolaresLarrave

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Does anyone here have or uses a device to create a profile for your monitor, like the Spyder or the Gretag Macbeth? Do these gizmos create a usable profile for your printer? Are they worth having?

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I don't think they're essential, as long as your OS-level color management has an advanced mode for optical calibration (this is a checkbox in MacOS; not sure what/where in Windows.) The eye is quite a good comparator, so visual calibration can give you very accurate results as long as you use enough data points, which is what the advanced mode does.

On the other hand, if you're not very confident about your ability to compare colors, or just don't want to spend half an hour every month or so going through the visual calibration process, a hardware calibrator may save you enough time and stress to be worth the money.

Incidentally, the lower-priced monitor calibrators ONLY calibrate your monitor -- you won't have a fully profiled system unless you calibrate your scanner and printer as well. This requires additional software, as well as precise targets that can be scanned, printed, and then measured to produce custom profiles.

I'd say these full-workflow calibration systems probably aren't worth the expense unless you've got money riding on the accuracy of your color output -- for example, when we switched at work over to an all-digital workflow, we forced our main photographer to implement color management and supply the profiles to our engraver, so the photographer's proofs would be consistent with the engravers. Color proofing and color correction are significant expenses in this type of work, so the cost to the photographer (probably several thousand dollars) was a worthwhile expense, especially since it helped him keep an account that bills several hundred thousand dollars a year to his studio. But outside a commercial color environment, I'd say this would be more than you need to do.
 
I use the Monaco/spyder/pantone pkg., My wife bought it one xmas for me and I think it was around 250-300 dollars. I use it onmy Mac with an LCD monitor. Is it worth it, in short hell yes! I used to struggle with prints from my EPSON 1280 AND 2200 vs. what I saw on my monitor, you can't imagine how much ink and paper I would go through trying to get the print to match the monitor, this was when I ran a small portrait business from my home.

If you use your printer or scanner often then I'd say go for it, it's worth the cost.

Todd
 
The purpose of calibration is to get prints from your printer that look like what you see on your computer screen. If that is important to you, then by all means get the calibration gizmos and software. For many amateurs getting a pleasing skin tone and relatively accurate overall balance is all that is required, and for that you do not need precise calibration. You can make a couple of prints and learn how to compensate in your settings for your printer. Regardless of calibration, don't expect the prints from a 1 hour minilab to be identical to your screen. There are variables beyond your control at work there. The calibration is mainly for your own in-house workflow to get the most perfect results from your chain of equipment, from scanning to output to your printer.
 
Thanks a lot for all the replies! I'll keep it in mind. Right now... I wish I knew how to turn off the color management in my printer. That way, I'd send files to print with the easy Adobe RGB (1996) profile and forget about the whole thing.

Now... Todd, did the Spider create a profile for your printer? Just wondering...
 
Dear Phototone,

Surely the purpose of calibration is to get colours that SOMEONE ELSE can use. Local matching of a specific monitor to a specific printer is easy enough, especially with an ANSI target (my C-ROES X2X meets ANSI IT18.7/1,-2), but what happens when you change monitors or printers, or send the images for photomechanical repro? This is something that I (and many others) need to know a lot more about.

Cheers,

Roger
 
SolaresLarrave said:
Thanks a lot for all the replies! I'll keep it in mind. Right now... I wish I knew how to turn off the color management in my printer. That way, I'd send files to print with the easy Adobe RGB (1996) profile and forget about the whole thing.

Now... Todd, did the Spider create a profile for your printer? Just wondering...

Another reason for funny colours may be the use of aRGB instead of sRGB. Here in Europe I still have to find an on-line lab (or a lab-period) that will accept aRGB.Or 16-bit colour, or TIFF...... Having said that the quality Kodak produces from my sRGB,8-bits files is stunning. 🙂 Better than the contents, actually
 
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