Skiff
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At one of the nationally known camera vendors in NYC, I spoke to one of the regulars behind the counter once about Fuji and it’s film strategy. He related a widely held rumor he had heard that FUJI’s stock of film had all been made ahead of time, years ago and put into the deep freeze.
That stupid lie was destroyed by lots of facts long ago, also here in this forum, and elsewhere, too. No need to waste time again on it. Film manufacturers don't freeze film. None of them. That alone tells enough.
Huss
Veteran
Horses for courses.
Both films are very different. And I would use them in different situations.
I've used quite a lot of both films:
Ektar works best in landscape photography.
Whereas Fuji Industrial 100 is more of an allround-film: It has natural, but also a bit vibrant colors. And also very good skin tones.
It has very fine grain, but not as fine as Ektar.
But the Fuji 100 has better sharpness and higher resolution than Ektar: I've had both in my resolution test with test target, and Fuji 100 delivered about 25% higher resolution.
Not buying it. Fuji "Industrial" 100 is just their repackaged cheapest 100 film. I'm not seeing it's not great, I love C200.
Show us your resolution test target results.
As can be seen here , Fuji "Industrial 100" is just C100 relabelled.
https://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showpost.php?
p=2593291&postcount=20
The results are in for the ISO 100 films now, too! Same as with the ISO 400 films, Fuji Business/Industrial 100 (top) and Fujicolor 100 (current Japanese version - bottom) have the same latent image barcode = same film!!!
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And just like Fuji Superia X-TRA 400, the latent image barcode shown in the data sheet for Fujicolor 100 (downloadable here) doesn't match what's actually on the film!
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Skiff
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Not buying it. Fuji "Industrial" 100 is just their repackaged cheapest 100 film. I'm not seeing it's not great, I love C200.
No problem. I know that Industrial 100 is based on former Fujicolor 100. And that is based on former Superia 100 (first version), which was an excellent film.
C200 is based on the first Superia 200 emulsion.
Show us your resolution test target results.
That makes absolutely no sense online, because no scanner can resolve film resolution when you have shot a resolution test target. With films like Industrial 100 you get values of 105 to 125 lp/mm, depending on the lens you are using, and depending on the object contrast of your test chart.
Even drum scanners cannot fully resolve that. Very good amateur scanners like Coolscan 5000 get in the 55-65 lp/mm range with such test target shots.
With optical enlarging with APO lenses and slide projection you can almost fully exploitd the film resolution. Much better results compared to scanners.
Scanning is a kind of "film resolution destroying" technology.
Evaluating under a microscope show you the full film resolution.
If I remember right you are soon in Vienna at Lomography? Maybe we can meet there and I can show you the results in real life.
f.hayek
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That stupid lie was destroyed by lots of facts long ago, also here in this forum, and elsewhere, too. No need to waste time again on it. Film manufacturers don't freeze film. None of them. That alone tells enough.
So Skiff, we have your word on it. Then it must be so.
Skiff
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So Skiff, we have your word on it. Then it must be so.
It has absolutely nothing to do with me. Just ask Ilford, Kodak, Foma, Agfa, Adox, IC, Fuji...... whether they freeze film after production. And they will answer you: no.
I have asked them.
You can also do a bit research and then you will found videos about factory visits of e.g. Ilford and Kodak. Including the storage of master rolls. No freezing. Film storage is in the +5° /+8° Celsius range.
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
Giant FF Freezer and 3 packs "news" from 2019.
Just LOL.
Just LOL.
His assertions are no less valid than James's, (to whom he was replying). ��So Skiff, we have your word on it. Then it must be so.
Are we having fun, yet?
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