AndyPiper
Established
Supposedly the forum participants over there are voting each day.
"9 svp" = "section 9 next, of you please" e.g.
"9 svp" = "section 9 next, of you please" e.g.
pessoa00
Member
Leicaiste said:
ghost
Well-known
blargh...could they have picked a more boring section?
Matthew
Established
ghost said:
They have to keep you interested...If they revealed all the good parts first it wouldn't be a proper strip tease.
Ted Witcher
Established
Just as an aside, I spoke to someone who had played with the prototype and reports that the camera "has no bugs" and the image quality is excellent, surpassing the DMR. Take it FWIW. He said it's everything you would expect a digital M to be, with the only minus being the crop factor.
Marc-A.
I Shoot Film
Just in order to have them right in front of our eyes, I post the pictures here:
ywenz
Veteran
Ted Witcher said:
The camera has no bugs... chuckles... He better have played with that camera pretty thoroughly and took it to bed to make that kind of judgment, if not then I have no respect for that person's judgement.
Yeah It's sad to know that 35 lux on that M8 is not really that wide anymore..
Nachkebia
Well-known
Well it looks thick! Timer mode? who needs it?
Ted Witcher
Established
ywenz said:The camera has no bugs... chuckles... He better have played with that camera pretty thoroughly and took it to bed to make that kind of judgment, if not then I have no respect for that person's judgement.
Yeah It's sad to know that 35 lux on that M8 is not really that wide anymore..
You can chuckle all you want, I merely reported what he said. In his view, there were no operational deficiencies. FWIW and YMMV.
Ted Witcher
Established
So, have we determined that the grey circle is a frame counter LCD?
ffttklackdedeng
Registered User
Ted Witcher said:
compteur = counter, so it looks like!
That must be some masochists, deciding to see the 'made in' text before the UI elements.. I guess they keep the most interesting parts for the last days.
Robert
Leicaiste
Member
pessoa00 said:
Yes it is.
JohanV
another GAS victim
JohanV said:They've just unveiled another tiny bit.
Not much new info though
On closer inspection, I retreat my statement.
It tells us that the M8 is made in Germany!
-sigh of relief-
AusDLK
Famous Photographer
>On the rear of the flash shoe there are 7 light spots that look to me to be electronic contacts.
Nope. This same thingy is at the back of my M7 shoe. It's just a metal ridge of some dubious function.
Nope. This same thingy is at the back of my M7 shoe. It's just a metal ridge of some dubious function.
swoop
Well-known
This camera is shaping up to be rather ugly looking. A huge LCD. A bulbous rotary dial on the rear and no rewind knob. I know that would be pointless. But still, I'm very much used to the motion.
I think the LCD should either be eliminated or at least smaller. Maybe just a small display of shots remains, white balance, exposure. Just the neccesary tidbits. No need to actually preview the imagine. And the rotary dial could be eliminated and relaed with a few buttons.
My logic is that the majority of buyers are those moving over from film and are very much used to the workflow. I don't need to know what it looks like on an LCD, I just saw the thing when I took the shot.
I think the LCD should either be eliminated or at least smaller. Maybe just a small display of shots remains, white balance, exposure. Just the neccesary tidbits. No need to actually preview the imagine. And the rotary dial could be eliminated and relaed with a few buttons.
My logic is that the majority of buyers are those moving over from film and are very much used to the workflow. I don't need to know what it looks like on an LCD, I just saw the thing when I took the shot.
jlw
Rangefinder camera pedant
swoop said:
I'm dubious of this reasoning. I suspect that the majority of people who remain "film diehards" by now fall into that camp because film does a better job of fulfilling their needs and preferences; they're not going to switch to a digital camera just because Leica started making one.
I think that the majority of M8 buyers will be photographers who are already committed to an all-digital workflow, but who would like to use a rangefinder camera for certain types of photography. (We all know that while an RF camera is less versatile than an SLR, it's just plain better for some specific kinds of picture-taking; that's why we're RF users!)
People who already are accustomed to working digitally would expect a decent-sized LCD -- not only for instant review but for checking histograms (very important given the limited tonal range of a digital sensor) and for the essential task of making menu settings. Omitting the LCD would put these people off and hurt sales, without really making it any more likely that film diehards would buy it.
ghost
Well-known
stick with film.
Matthew
Established
swoop said:
You haven't even seen the camera in person or in an actual photograph and you've already condemned it as ugly? From everything I've seen it looks 95% the same as a film M except with an LCD screen on the back--which really isn't any uglier than the film back/ISO dial on a film M. In fact I think it looks a little bit better without the rewind knob.
If it were up to me I'd eliminate the red dot on the front and make the Leica top script standard. The additional dot on the front (white balance, whatever it is...) bugged me when I first saw it but now I don't even notice it or know why it bothered me.
swoop said:
While I don't often check the LCD when shooting, I find it very useful in difficult lighting situations. Take a shot, check exposure, compensate if neccessary and then don't look at it again. The bigger the screen the easier it is to do this. Given the propensity to blow highlights that digital undeniably has I think not having the ability to preview your shots is a huge mistake. I'm coming from a solid film background and very much appreciate the LCD.