PCB_RF
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jonmanjiro has been discussing, and is now selling, a very interesting hand-assembled, limited-production MS Optical 35/3.5 Perar Triplet lens in Leica M-mount. Here's the thread; you'll find the For Sale ad in the classifieds:
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94672
MS Optical is Miyazaki-san in Chiba, Japan. He designs and hand-assembles lenses, and does lensmount conversions as well. The 35/3.5 Perar has a limited production of about 185 units.
I'm tugging coats here because it looks like a great walkaround short tele lens for m4/3. Very small, collapsible, with a focusing lever that should make focusing quicker/easier than, say, an LTM 35/3.5 Summaron, modern glass and coatings, and a cool/quirky backstory. Looks like it would make a great pocketable combo with a GF1 or EPx.
It's not in my budget at the moment, but it looks like at least a couple of RFFers have ordered one, and I figured not everyone here is haunting the Leica M forum.
I have no financial interest in the product or sellers, just have a lust for oddball optics and an unhealthy obsession with things Leica- and Japan-related.
Miyazaki-san also has an interesting 50/1.3.....
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94672
MS Optical is Miyazaki-san in Chiba, Japan. He designs and hand-assembles lenses, and does lensmount conversions as well. The 35/3.5 Perar has a limited production of about 185 units.
I'm tugging coats here because it looks like a great walkaround short tele lens for m4/3. Very small, collapsible, with a focusing lever that should make focusing quicker/easier than, say, an LTM 35/3.5 Summaron, modern glass and coatings, and a cool/quirky backstory. Looks like it would make a great pocketable combo with a GF1 or EPx.
It's not in my budget at the moment, but it looks like at least a couple of RFFers have ordered one, and I figured not everyone here is haunting the Leica M forum.
I have no financial interest in the product or sellers, just have a lust for oddball optics and an unhealthy obsession with things Leica- and Japan-related.
Miyazaki-san also has an interesting 50/1.3.....
efix
RF user by conviction
I love that line from Dr. Strangelove! (Btw, yes, it's an interesting lens!)
raid
Dad Photographer
Why start a new thread here on the lens?
Yes, it would be an interesting tiny tele for m4/3, or a tiny normal for Sony NEX.
PCB_RF
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Thought It Might Be Of Interest To M4/3ers
Thought It Might Be Of Interest To M4/3ers
Hi Raid, I wasn't so much trying to start a new thread as trying to draw attention to the existence of this lens and the original thread, since the lens seems like such a good fit for m4/3 use.
Nobody on the thread over at Leica M had mentioned m4/3 (or NEX) use, and nobody here had mentioned the lens at all. It must be the nakoudo (match-maker) instinct in me....
I'm never sure about protocol for things like this. Do the folks cruising Leica M want to read m4/3-related posts about this lens in the Leica M forum? If I didn't bring up the topic here, how many regular M4/3 forum readers would have missed it? How many m4/3ers regularly check out the Leica M forum? Etc, etc, etc....
Thought It Might Be Of Interest To M4/3ers
Hi Raid, I wasn't so much trying to start a new thread as trying to draw attention to the existence of this lens and the original thread, since the lens seems like such a good fit for m4/3 use.
Nobody on the thread over at Leica M had mentioned m4/3 (or NEX) use, and nobody here had mentioned the lens at all. It must be the nakoudo (match-maker) instinct in me....
I'm never sure about protocol for things like this. Do the folks cruising Leica M want to read m4/3-related posts about this lens in the Leica M forum? If I didn't bring up the topic here, how many regular M4/3 forum readers would have missed it? How many m4/3ers regularly check out the Leica M forum? Etc, etc, etc....
PCB_RF
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You betcha! You buy for me, yes?
You betcha! You buy for me, yes?
Yes, very interesting. Do you need my mailing address?
You betcha! You buy for me, yes?
Yes, very interesting. Do you need my mailing address?
ampguy
Veteran
what would be even cooler, is a native mount 4/3 and/or nex version, eliminating the thick adapter needed.
Perhaps just make a NEX version, and someone may make a 4/3 to NEX adapter, if they don't already ...
Perhaps just make a NEX version, and someone may make a 4/3 to NEX adapter, if they don't already ...
PCB_RF
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A Perar in m4/3 mount would be cool, although an M>4/3 adapter is only about 7mm thick, so it's not that bad.
The Sony NEX flange back distance of 18mm is 2mm shallower than m4/3 (20mm), so you'd need an m4/3 lens > NEX body adapter. The other way 'round won't work without negative magnification.
I hadn't realized NEX was shallower than m4/3---no wonder that body is so thin!
The good news is you could use your C/V 25/0.95 m4/3 lens on NEX as soon as somebody busts out an adapter. There will probably be vignetting, though---I wonder how much...
The Sony NEX flange back distance of 18mm is 2mm shallower than m4/3 (20mm), so you'd need an m4/3 lens > NEX body adapter. The other way 'round won't work without negative magnification.
I hadn't realized NEX was shallower than m4/3---no wonder that body is so thin!
The good news is you could use your C/V 25/0.95 m4/3 lens on NEX as soon as somebody busts out an adapter. There will probably be vignetting, though---I wonder how much...
ampguy
Veteran
ehh, i don't think so
ehh, i don't think so
that's like saying you can use 4/3 lens on aps-c dslr's - not likely with good results ... take a look at the sensor size differences ... wrt image circle size
ehh, i don't think so
that's like saying you can use 4/3 lens on aps-c dslr's - not likely with good results ... take a look at the sensor size differences ... wrt image circle size
PCB_RF
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Yes, that's why I said there'd probably be vignetting. But folks are paying over US$1k for decades-old Angenieux 25/0.95 c-mount lenses that vignette heavily on m4/3, so maybe modern vignetting will look cool, too.
Note that I'm mostly joking here....
Note that I'm mostly joking here....
JoeV
Thin Air, Bright Sun
MS Optical Super Triplet Perar 3.5/35
MS Optical Super Triplet Perar 3.5/35
Saw this lens posted on Japan Exposures website, it's a newly designed Cooke triplet designed for M-mount, limited edition. Claims to be made to extremely high standards, at a moderate price (19,900 yen). The lens features tantalum glass elements and a round (Edmunds), rather than polygonal, aperture.
If you take a look at the lens attached to an M8 body, I immediately wonder why we can't have such diminutive yet quality manual lenses for u4/3. Since the same company (MS Optical) also makes u4/3 adapters, I wonder if it isn't just a matter of time before we see something like this released directly for our format.
~Joe
MS Optical Super Triplet Perar 3.5/35
Saw this lens posted on Japan Exposures website, it's a newly designed Cooke triplet designed for M-mount, limited edition. Claims to be made to extremely high standards, at a moderate price (19,900 yen). The lens features tantalum glass elements and a round (Edmunds), rather than polygonal, aperture.
If you take a look at the lens attached to an M8 body, I immediately wonder why we can't have such diminutive yet quality manual lenses for u4/3. Since the same company (MS Optical) also makes u4/3 adapters, I wonder if it isn't just a matter of time before we see something like this released directly for our format.
~Joe
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johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
PCB_RF
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Price Is 50K Yen, Not 20K Yen
Price Is 50K Yen, Not 20K Yen
I'm not sure if you had a typo or read wrong, but the price of the lens is 49,000 yen ($500+), not 19,000 yen ($200+). Just trying to make sure nobody's heart gets beating too quickly.
There's a long thread about this lens on the Leica M forum, and I started a mini-thread here.
Very cool lens...
Price Is 50K Yen, Not 20K Yen
I'm not sure if you had a typo or read wrong, but the price of the lens is 49,000 yen ($500+), not 19,000 yen ($200+). Just trying to make sure nobody's heart gets beating too quickly.
There's a long thread about this lens on the Leica M forum, and I started a mini-thread here.
Very cool lens...
JoeV
Thin Air, Bright Sun
Yes, a badly mangled typo on the price, sorry for any misunderstanding. I'll check out the other thread, thanks.
~Joe
~Joe
So sexy this lens...
Bobfrance
Over Exposed
I have one and love it.
The quality is as good as any, but more importantly it turned my M8 into a pocketable camera thus opening up more photo opportinities to me and saving me from the clutches of the X100.
The quality is as good as any, but more importantly it turned my M8 into a pocketable camera thus opening up more photo opportinities to me and saving me from the clutches of the X100.
I have one and love it.
The quality is as good as any, but more importantly it turned my M8 into a pocketable camera thus opening up more photo opportinities to me and saving me from the clutches of the X100.
Yes, that is why I like it too... but I'd still have to have a X100!