My Crumpler has arrived...

BJ Bignell

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...and it's too small! 🙁

I ordered the "4 Million Dollar Home", which is 22x20x12cm. I figured this should be plenty for my R and lenses, plus a little lunch. I need a daily user to replace my ugly old backpack, something that'll carry more than the camera gear, but not too much more.

The bag itself is beautiful, and very well constructed. It's made of tough material, well-stitched, and has a myriad of little pockets, hidden places, and attachment spots. OK, maybe not a myriad, but more than I expected. 🙄 It comes with a single velcro divider for the inside, and a very long, wide shoulder strap. The velcro used to close the flap is surprisingly strong, and there is a clasp as well; ain't nothing going to fall out of one of these bags, and you'll definitely notice if someone is trying to get in there! For street work, it'd probably be wise to cover the velcro to keep it quiet, and rely on the clasp.

What can it hold? My Bessa R, 50/1.5, 75/2.5, 21/4, 6 (or more) rolls of film, filters, cable release, and I could get my Vivitar 2800 flash in there if I needed. It'd also carry the R with one lens, and my Yashica 'A' and light meter (or one of the folding cameras), plus a bunch of film.

What can't it hold? A small lunch and a reasonably-sized notepad. For travelling and daily use, these are pretty much essential. So now, I have to send it back and get a bigger model. I could keep it and use it just as my camera bag, because it would fit the bill perfectly, but that's not what I wanted it for...

Why is the bag so small? Well, the construction and shape of the bag means that it doesn't fill the dimensions provided on the website, so it's actually smaller than it says. And, with the padding and divider inside, more interior space is lost than I expected.

I've attached a few pictures. The first is the bag, and all of the stuff I could put into it. The second is all of the stuff in the bag (there's room for more than six rolls of film, but that was enough for demonstration purposes). The third, one of the little hidden pockets between the strap and the interior compartment of the bag. And fourth, the velcro holder at one end of the strap for either Crumpler attachments, or whatever else you wanted to attach there.

And finally, just a "thumbs-up" for Jason at StoreOS, the Crumpler distributer here in Canada. I've traded emails with him before, regarding my bag selection, and he answered promptly and politely. He actually suggested that I get the "6 Million Dollar Home", but I thought it would be too big. 😱 Now I wish I had listened to him in the first place; it's likely the bag I'll be ordering now.
 
A couple of years ago, a local grocery store chanin thought they wanted to get into photo accessories and started selling Crumplers. Aftter a year they gave it up and sold their remaining stock at a big discount. I picked up a Crumpler "Budgie Smuggler" for less than $14. It's a real tough single camera bag that allows one to carry an extra lens and lots of film.

Their non-oblong shape does limit their carrying capacity. You pretty much have to try one out in a store to see what size you really need.

-Paul
 
Paul,

Yes, I've just learned that it's hard to buy stuff like this over the web... Based on the size and shape of this bag, though, I am pretty sure about what size of bag I need now.

I am definitely going to try and get the right Crumpler, because they're really a well-built bag.

BJ
 
i like the m classic too.

bj, the bag i bought years ago from the university book store sounds like what you want.
i started using it lately for an everyday bag, not just a camera bag. it's basically a book bag and i bought an insert for it. (from a real camera bag)

stay the search...
 
Joe, maybe I'll walk up there this afternoon. I'd like to have a purpose-built camera bag, though, but something that doesn't have an obvious logo on it (I'd be removing the Crumpler logo from the bag if I get the right one), or an obvious "camera bag" style. Also, I'm a little rough with the gear, and when I'm gone travelling this fall, I'll definitely need something padded.

I'm going to try the 6 Million Dollar Home, which is close in size to the M-Classics bag, but cheaper, and more my style. The search continues...
 
I got an email back from Jason @ Crumpler; no problem to send back the bag and get the bigger one. He'll charge the difference to the CC, and no shipping cost for the new one! I have to pay to get this one back there, of course.

I stopped at Redbike (a most-awesome bike store) just up the street, and looked at the messenger bags they have. Very nice stuff from Timbuk2, but nothing that I could properly adapt to be a camera bag. The Timbuk2 bags are very nice to look at, and look to be very well built as well (ballistic nylon). If someone is looking for a messenger bag, with a more open style inside, these may work.
 
BJ Bignell said:
Very nice stuff from Timbuk2, but nothing that I could properly adapt to be a camera bag. The Timbuk2 bags are very nice to look at, and look to be very well built as well (ballistic nylon). If someone is looking for a messenger bag, with a more open style inside, these may work.

I bought the Timbuk2 Metro and am happy. It is well constructed, doesn't scream CAMERA BAG, and is just the size I wanted. I usually care one or two RF cameras and several lenses in it. A short while ago I carried an SLR, and an RF with several lenses, film, and lightmeter, without problem. But, because it lacks any internal structure, the camera bodies rub against one another. I'm in the process of making a padded insert for mine.

I've since seen the Domke F-5XB in person. If I had to do it over again, it would be a difficult choice between the Domke and the Timbuk2.

I've looked at the Crumplers and believe that their construction is absolutely first rate. Their design just didn't appeal to me. Their web site absolutely hilarious and certainly captures their nonconformist attitude.

Steve
SRMC
 
i'm a timbuk2 evangelist! true, there is no padding to speak of in the bags but some lens wraps and some egg crate foam in the bottom of the bag can protect from the jarring of everyday life. the advantages of the timbuk2 is it really is COMPLETELY waterproof. i got caught on my scooter in a hailstorm (pea sized hail and a full downpour). i had every kind of electrical gear in my 6-year-old timbuk2 bag and by the time i could find shelter i was already completely soaked -- i even had to pour water out of my shoes like a warner bros. cartoon! i couldn't bring myself to look in the bag until i got home. i didn't want to think about how much money it would take to replace everything in the bag if it leaked.

well, it didn't! i got home and the only thing that was even slightly damp in the bag was the corner of a magazine that had been sticking out of the corner. i immediately sat down and wrote a letter to the company praising them.

i have since bought a smaller version of my messenger bag (the peewee/small) to use on the weekends and i have the medium (el ocho) bag which survived the downpour for work (hold camera, lunch, book, assorted odds and ends -- spacious!)

i've tried to embrace the crumpler bags because i like the designs and the idea of more padding but the padding is almost too bulky to be really useful. good luck and let us know if the 6million dollar home works out and breaks in nicely.
 
Oh yes, those Timbuk2's look real spiffy. And the Crumpler website is a must visit too.

Steve, what are your impressions of the F-5XB? I've been interested in this bag for a while. No one in town carries it (that I know of). It's hard to make a decision without handling/seeing one. Exactly how small is it? Is it heavily padded, or moderate?
 
Steve said:
It has a fair amount of non-removable padding. It wasn't so thick that it seemed to steal away the useful space in the bag. I liked how the padding divided the interior. I thought I'd be able to fit both of my RF cameras, lenses, and other stuff easily. It looked to me like it would hold one SLR and a couple of lenses. The one thing I didn't care for was the strong (and loud) velcro closure on the outside. Between the Domke and the Timbuk2, I liked the shape, materials, and strap on the Timbuk2 better. I've since made a padded insert for my Timbuk2 using "Foamies" sheet foam for padding and automotive headliner material (velour w/ 2mm open cell foam backing) for the cover and no longer second guess my decision.

Steve
SRMC
 
whats the word on camera backpacks?

whats the word on camera backpacks?

I am looking to buy a camera back pack because my equipment has overflowed my camera bag. Does anyone have any suggestions? Also that may be in a reasonable price range, but mostly I am just looking for any suggestions. Thanks!! :angel:
 
I have a LowePro Street & Field Backpack. It is divided into two compartments, an upper and a lower. The lower area fits a couple of bodies and 2-3 lenses, perhaps some filme etc. It's not a large backpack for trekking. The upper area appears to be designed to pack a jumper and lunch etc, so it great for a day out or a bike ride. Tough bag with good stitching and harness etc. It also has a couple of external side pockets for drink bottles. A great feature is a unique tripod holder which allows the tripod to be secured to the backpack without falling off. Perhaps good for a dat trip or PJ stuff, Has an all weatgher shower cover if needed.
 
Re my last post (S&F Backpack), I should of mentioned that i tend not to use it becuase it a PITA having to take the back pack off every time I need to grab the camera or a filter or whatever on an outing. I have found and use a Crumpler Wonder Weenie (Messenger) bag. This acts like a shoulder bag when you want it to, allowing access to your gear at your hip, or with one buckle, it becomes a secure backpack which keeps the load very close to your body (it's designed for bike riders and this becomes more important in this regard). The flap covering the bag is secured with a large velcro strip which makes a very loud tearing sound when it's opened (a good feature if security is a concern). I have seen Crumpler inserts that are designed to be coupled with this bag, although I don't have one. You then have the option of using the bag as a messenger bag or a photo bag depending on your need. I use mine for work primarily, ats the perfect size for a wad of A4 documents and files. It's also tough as nails and built for a lifetime.
 
I just purchased a Crumpler Whickey and Cox backpack. It is great. The construction really is superb. They are very well padded, so they probably hold a little less than bags of comparable size from Lowepro and Tamrac, but they are more protected and probably better built (I also have a Lowepro minitrekker AW and it is great, but the whickey and cox will hold about the same, as well as a laptop, and it is a more comfortable bag. In the Whickey and Cox (their mid sized computer/photo bag), I was able to fit:

R9 with 180mm f/2.8 APO, 100 apo, 50/1.4, 19/2.8. MP w/50lux, 75lux, 135 tele-elmar, 35lux asph, 21mm voigtlander and M3. This was pushing it, and it did not really fit that much if I included the laptop, but it got close.
 
I should add that you need to take the backpack off to access anything. I use these backpacks mostly for hiking or traveling. Once you get to a place where you are going to be walking around shooting all the while, messanger or camera bags are much better. I use a Domke J-803, which is an awesome bag to shoot from....again, one that does not look like a camera bag.
 
My NEW Crumpler has arrived...

My NEW Crumpler has arrived...

... and OH BABY! Jackpot!!! 😀

I'll write it all up when I have a chance (this is a crazy time for me right now), but suffice to say that it's just what I was looking for.

Cheers!
 
Crumplers on sale

Crumplers on sale

If you Crumpler fans are in the Sacramento California region, Camera Arts is selling their Crumpler stock for 25% off. They have a selection of the various sized bags and the laptop cases as well. Unfortunately, while they have a web site, www.cameraarts.net, they do not do web sales.

I have no interest in the store other than I appreciate their service. While you hear plenty about bad service from chain stores, this store is the direct opposite. It is owned and staffed by very nice people (and great artists) who are very knowledgeable and always helpful. I try to give them my business when I can.

SRMC
Steve
 
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