OK, I have to ask.......
Did you get a red one or blue?

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(we should have a devil smiley option)
Did you get a red one or blue?
(we should have a devil smiley option)
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i got a black one!
i would have wanted a red one if the lenses were red too.
the black lenses look funny on the red or blue bodies...imho, that is.
rover, this is the camera to get. the lens is sharp, manual focus is so nice for these tired old eyes, it's small and i will soon be able to mate my zm lenses to it.
i hope the oly will be be even better but i am not waiting to find out.
i would have wanted a red one if the lenses were red too.
the black lenses look funny on the red or blue bodies...imho, that is.
rover, this is the camera to get. the lens is sharp, manual focus is so nice for these tired old eyes, it's small and i will soon be able to mate my zm lenses to it.
i hope the oly will be be even better but i am not waiting to find out.
JeffGreene
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i hope the oly will be be even better but i am not waiting to find out.
Joe:
Please post some of the ZM shots when you get a chance. I'm going to wait for Oly myself. Two kids in college helps to support my balanced perspective.
I hope that the new Oly has a viewfinder as well as no slr hump. I stopped by a nearby chain retail shop selling the G1 for $799. I did get to handle one. They are definitely small and petite. Very rf-like. Being able to use my M glass is very appealing. If the new Oly provides the same manual focusing capability as the G-1 it'll be no-brainer. The low light image on the Getdpi forum are very convincing.
Respectfully,
Jeff
dazedgonebye
Veteran
Wow, nice stuff. I am just catching up here on what has been going on.
I read the Pop review that said noise at high ISOs on the G1 were not that good. So much for Pop's reviews, those are not that bad at all.
A very interesting little camera.
I think they tend to compare against the very best available sensors...no way a G1 can compare to a FF sensor or even the best crop sensors from Nikon or Canon.
That doesn't mean it can't be considered very good and plenty adequate.
I haven't seen much at 1600 iso in low light. Any chance of posting something like that?
I think they tend to compare against the very best available sensors...no way a G1 can compare to a FF sensor or even the best crop sensors from Nikon or Canon.
That doesn't mean it can't be considered very good and plenty adequate.
I haven't seen much at 1600 iso in low light. Any chance of posting something like that?
I am not that attuned to all PP methods, but the links you provided did show the noise of the G1, but also one poster stated that the camera/processor, whichever, also underexposed at high ISOs. Any underexposure is going to cause increased noise. You can improve that by being smart and setting exposure compensation and to use a NR filter. I would also think a firmware upgrade can address that too, so a software fix.
The G1 results did fall off dramatically compared to other 4/3 cameras, so that is why I think whatever is causing the test result can be addressed, the sensor is capable. Pop's tests are good, but you have to read into them to understand the findings some times.
rover, this is the camera to get. the lens is sharp, manual focus is so nice for these tired old eyes, it's small and i will soon be able to mate my zm lenses to it.
There is a Minolta MD/MC adaptor!!!! I have lots of those lenses.
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i am now thinking about all those oly lenses i got rid of, and the fd lenses and the nikon lenses...
jeff, it will be more than a month before i have the adapter to use with the m lenses but i will be posting shots as soon as i am able.
joe
jeff, it will be more than a month before i have the adapter to use with the m lenses but i will be posting shots as soon as i am able.
joe
My head is hurting but I keep thinking. I read Stephen's 4/3 adaptor page at Cameraquest. Regarding the Minolta adaptor some lenses need to be modified, but with M43 the adaptor would be (I hope they make an M43 MD adaptor) would be thicker, so no modification probably. Then, you get a 200/2.8 for less than $200...and you have a 400/2.8, wow. How inexpensive is that compared to any other system?
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a few more from this afternoon...these were at 200 iso



Do you shoot in RAW? Any issues with your RAW converter recognizing the Pani RAW format?
Zenjitsuman
Established
How do you like the HD lcd vf, do you think indoors its as good as the normal rangefinder vf? Do you think it can replace slr optical vf now used universally, if not what must be improved to get to the point where we can get rid of mirrors and prisms.
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i am shooting jpegs now as my ps elements 6 won't open the g1 raw files.
i could use the included software but have not loaded it yet.
z'man, the finder view does take some getting used to but it's hasn't been all that difficult. the finder increases the 'gain' when in a dark place, that is, it's gets brighter (but noisier) and focussing is very easy. as far as mirrors and prisms, they arealready gone with the camera and i have not missed them yet.
joe
i could use the included software but have not loaded it yet.
z'man, the finder view does take some getting used to but it's hasn't been all that difficult. the finder increases the 'gain' when in a dark place, that is, it's gets brighter (but noisier) and focussing is very easy. as far as mirrors and prisms, they arealready gone with the camera and i have not missed them yet.
joe
gdi
Veteran
a few more from this afternoon...these were at 200 iso
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These look great - I need to sell some stuff tomorrow...
Jamie Pillers
Skeptic
How good is that sensor?
How good is that sensor?
So how does that sensor compare to a full-frame piece of film?
How good is that sensor?
So how does that sensor compare to a full-frame piece of film?
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i have no idea jamie.
i'm the first to admit that i like gear but i am not really into the details of it all.
if it can make an image i like and it's fun to play with that's good enough for me.
i also don't get hung up on size
remember when 35 mm still photography was invented it was called the miniature format and thought to be like a toy and today IT is the standard that many use as a reference.
joe
i'm the first to admit that i like gear but i am not really into the details of it all.
if it can make an image i like and it's fun to play with that's good enough for me.
i also don't get hung up on size
remember when 35 mm still photography was invented it was called the miniature format and thought to be like a toy and today IT is the standard that many use as a reference.
joe
KEH
Well-known
Congrats Joe. I have been using a G1 with kit lens for a few weeks. Here is my Flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/khamilton/sets/72157611590488773/
and one example inline:
John Milich is now shipping his micro 4/3 to LTM adapter (reviewed over at Sean Reid's site). This is getting interesting...
Cheers, and best wishes for the new year,
Kirk
http://www.flickr.com/photos/khamilton/sets/72157611590488773/
and one example inline:

John Milich is now shipping his micro 4/3 to LTM adapter (reviewed over at Sean Reid's site). This is getting interesting...
Cheers, and best wishes for the new year,
Kirk
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more pics ...
a couple more on my flickr ...
joe



a couple more on my flickr ...
joe
RayPA
Ignore It (It'll go away)
Nice to be in the club.
Here's one where a couple of Pannies combine for a shot.
This (G1) is a very interesting camera. The kit lens is nice. The EVF is pretty amazing. Nice ergos. Looking forward to the 20/1.7 and the adapter.
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This (G1) is a very interesting camera. The kit lens is nice. The EVF is pretty amazing. Nice ergos. Looking forward to the 20/1.7 and the adapter.
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Austerby
Well-known
Whilst popping out for a sandwich at lunch yesterday I went into the local camera shop and had a hold of the G1. Must admit to being underwhelmed - I certainly think the M adaptor is key and does make it interesting, but the camera itself was just another modern digital camera to me. The viewfinder was good and the size handy but it didn't immediately say "buy me" when I picked it up. When the time comes that I want to replace my (perfectly adequate) D70 then I'll certainly be looking at what is available in this mount.
Nice to be in the club.Here's one where a couple of Pannies combine for a shot.
This (G1) is a very interesting camera. The kit lens is nice. The EVF is pretty amazing. Nice ergos. Looking forward to the 20/1.7 and the adapter.
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You jumped!!! Congratulations. My birthday is around PMA time so for now I have not.
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