narsuitus
Well-known
Sure, all you need is a camera and a will to make money, right. No talent needed right? He's an amateur, come on.
The original poster has a problem and is looking for ideas to solve the problem. When problem-solving, sometimes it is good to think outside the box. That is what I was trying to do.
The original poster did not say he/she was an amateur. Also, since I have never seen his/her work, I could not arrive at the conclusion that he/she has no talent. Plus, there are amateurs with great talent.
In my opinion, looking for paying customers, sponsors, patrons, etc. who could help finance his/her passion is a viable option and should not be dismissed.
DownUnder
Nikon Nomad
Overlooking the posts from well-meaning types who fail to activate brains and properly process what the OP wrote before putting fingers to keyboards, or input ascorbic one-liners to, they may believe, wittily resolve the OP's queries, four clear messages emerge from this thread.
Shoot less. Think more. Process carefully. Shop cautiously for film.
And a fifth. Worrying about costs in film photography is a lost cause!
And maybe even a sixth. The OP seems to be an amateur, and is just looking for sensible advice to cut his film costs. (Even I must remember this.)
I suspect the OP is applying digital thinking to his approach to film. He hasn't yet worked out for himself that D is not F, and the latter requires not only different techniques but also a wholly new mindset.
Succinctly said, with film, less is more.
If machine-gunning images is your preferred way, cut back on film and use your D1300. It is an excellent camera and fine color work can be done with it, far better than most 35mm films, IMO, although I and many others prefer film B&W to digital color-processed-to-monochrome for tones, especially in the mid ranges.
As for the rest,nobody has asked the OP whether or not they want to home-process films. Do you, OP? Home processing (I do it) isn't cheap, but it doesn't have to be high costly. HC110 (no longer sold in Australia) is good, but so is D76 used 1+1. Buy it by the liter bag and store it carefully after mixing, it will go a long way. Ditto fixer concentrate. Processing tanks in OK condition often turn up in charity and secondhand shops. The rest of your darkroom can be bought at a Reject Shop without breaking the bank.
As for the rest of the process, well, let's not open the gates to Hell on scanning and scanners...
If you decline to D&P or even only D yourself, look around for someone to do it. Prices even in super expensive Australia are all over the place. As I have a darkroom, many people ask me to process their films, some will happily pay $35, others want it for $3.50. (Disclaimer: I refuse all requests to 'soup' strange films at home.)
Lateral thinking is the way here, but common sense must prevail. This said, there are a few well-thought out and intelligent responses in the thread - so many posters are on-track.
xray, I am 1000%+++with you in everything you wrote. GIGO. Whoever invents a "web garbage wiper" device in future, will surely reap gazillions in royalties AND no end of global gratitude.
As for canned air, well, there's canned air and hot air. Over here in Down Under, many Ozzies say Canberra will never need central heating when our federal parliament is in session.
Shoot less. Think more. Process carefully. Shop cautiously for film.
And a fifth. Worrying about costs in film photography is a lost cause!
And maybe even a sixth. The OP seems to be an amateur, and is just looking for sensible advice to cut his film costs. (Even I must remember this.)
I suspect the OP is applying digital thinking to his approach to film. He hasn't yet worked out for himself that D is not F, and the latter requires not only different techniques but also a wholly new mindset.
Succinctly said, with film, less is more.
If machine-gunning images is your preferred way, cut back on film and use your D1300. It is an excellent camera and fine color work can be done with it, far better than most 35mm films, IMO, although I and many others prefer film B&W to digital color-processed-to-monochrome for tones, especially in the mid ranges.
As for the rest,nobody has asked the OP whether or not they want to home-process films. Do you, OP? Home processing (I do it) isn't cheap, but it doesn't have to be high costly. HC110 (no longer sold in Australia) is good, but so is D76 used 1+1. Buy it by the liter bag and store it carefully after mixing, it will go a long way. Ditto fixer concentrate. Processing tanks in OK condition often turn up in charity and secondhand shops. The rest of your darkroom can be bought at a Reject Shop without breaking the bank.
As for the rest of the process, well, let's not open the gates to Hell on scanning and scanners...
If you decline to D&P or even only D yourself, look around for someone to do it. Prices even in super expensive Australia are all over the place. As I have a darkroom, many people ask me to process their films, some will happily pay $35, others want it for $3.50. (Disclaimer: I refuse all requests to 'soup' strange films at home.)
Lateral thinking is the way here, but common sense must prevail. This said, there are a few well-thought out and intelligent responses in the thread - so many posters are on-track.
xray, I am 1000%+++with you in everything you wrote. GIGO. Whoever invents a "web garbage wiper" device in future, will surely reap gazillions in royalties AND no end of global gratitude.
As for canned air, well, there's canned air and hot air. Over here in Down Under, many Ozzies say Canberra will never need central heating when our federal parliament is in session.
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narsuitus
Well-known
Many of us require many words to say nothing.
x-ray
Veteran
The original poster has a problem and is looking for ideas to solve the problem. When problem-solving, sometimes it is good to think outside the box. That is what I was trying to do.
The original poster did not say he/she was an amateur. Also, since I have never seen his/her work, I could not arrive at the conclusion that he/she has no talent. Plus, there are amateurs with great talent.
In my opinion, looking for paying customers, sponsors, patrons, etc. who could help finance his/her passion is a viable option and should not be dismissed.
I didn't say he didn't have talent.
It's obvious from reading his post he's inexperienced otherwise he wouldn't be here asking this question. Pretty much anyone with experience and knowledge could figure a solution to his problem.
There are plenty of amateurs with tallent and plenty of professionals with no tallent.
x-ray
Veteran
Folks act like being an amateur is a disgrace. We all started there. However being a professional is a lot more than taking money to take pictures. Many so called professionals don't deserve the title professional.
DownUnder
Nikon Nomad
#23, I salute you. And all those who achieve the same with few words.
PKR
Veteran
Folks act like being an amateur is a disgrace. We all started there. However being a professional is a lot more than taking money to take pictures. Many so called professionals don't deserve the title professional.
I worked for years before being published. Now anyone who can navigate social media is published world wide. Being published was a big step. Not any longer. Now anyone who's published and has a business card ($10 on the web) is a pro. The term is meaningless today.
I never tell people I'm a photographer outside of work these days. When asked, I tell them I work in electronic imaging.
Rob-F
Likes Leicas
Many of us require many words to say nothing.
"It does not require many words to speak the truth."
----Chief Joseph of the Nez Perce tribe.
I will just add this to what has been said: before clicking the shutter, ask,
"Do I really want a picture of this? Will I ever look at it?"
ptpdprinter
Veteran
Succinctly said, with digital, less is more too.I suspect the OP is applying digital thinking to his approach to film. He hasn't yet worked out for himself that D is not F, and the latter requires not only different techniques but also a wholly new mindset. Succinctly said, with film, less is more.
Godfrey
somewhat colored
Focus on doing and seeing, not on the equipment.
G
Equipment is transitory. Photographs endure.
- Regards film cameras: Spend more time looking and less time pressing the shutter release.
- Buy a digital camera that you like to expand and diversify your interests, and for experimentation, if the one you have doesn't motivate you to use it.
- Keep your favorite camera or two, sell the rest.
G
Equipment is transitory. Photographs endure.
Hi guys,
I'm into a problem. So, I got into film photography. I love it but there are a few problems in its way - mostly costs. Considering I can spend 2-3 rolls each day, each roll value around 3€ to 5€ and development going around 5€ to 10€ each roll (depends if at home or local lab), it's getting way expensive. I can't even go up to medium format since it's even more expensive.
So, I've came to an agreement with myself. I'm selling my main camera and leaving the rest for decoration/niche use. I won't leave them to death but I will resort them to have fun sometimes. That will pocket me from 200 to 250€.
So my thing is, what options would I have going from SLR/RF to digital RF considering I already have a cheap DSLR (1300d)?
Thanks!
PS: Hope I've written this in the right section!
Out to Lunch
Ventor
Lots of unsolicited advice.
If and when you have M mount lenses, I'd recommend the Epson R-D1s or R-D1x. Consider using http://www.japancamerahunter.com/ to source a mint copy in Japan.
If and when you have M mount lenses, I'd recommend the Epson R-D1s or R-D1x. Consider using http://www.japancamerahunter.com/ to source a mint copy in Japan.
DFigueira
Established
Grabbing all of the things here.
I'm always taking pictures because of my family, friends and other hobbies that I love.
I made the wrong calculations. My monthly rate of rolls is 30 to 45. I have all marked down. There are some days that I can spend up to 3 rolls but there are others that I might shoot half. I have misguided here and I am deeply sorry.
Why I cant use the 1300d? It's big and bulky and has an amazing attraction to be stolen in my country.
The other is that I like rangefinders but in my country I don't have any option of trading my camera for a good rangefinder with lightmeter - I don't have to be always guessing the right settings. They are either very expensive or don't have lightmeters. I've done that for a while with my FX-2 and I loved it but there are times that I hated it since I wasn't quick enough.
And the main thing. Why I take many photos? Because I have a bad memory. My family has an Alzheimer history. And at the same time, cancer history. Taking photos of everything is what sparkles my memory to not lose certain things. I am 20 years old and I've already lost 5 years of existing on my head and I have no idea how and no material to try to remember them.
I think you can figure out the rest...
I'll be always an amateur. I have no interest of going pro. There are too many people on the market and there are bigger interests on my life than photography. I just like to snap. But I'll try to control myself. I'm guessing from everyone's answers that there are no "cheaper solutions".
But thank you everyone. I would like more feedback on this. And I promise to take more control on my photos, even though they aren't getting bad
As for half frame photography... is there any worth rangefinders for it?
I'm always taking pictures because of my family, friends and other hobbies that I love.
I made the wrong calculations. My monthly rate of rolls is 30 to 45. I have all marked down. There are some days that I can spend up to 3 rolls but there are others that I might shoot half. I have misguided here and I am deeply sorry.
Why I cant use the 1300d? It's big and bulky and has an amazing attraction to be stolen in my country.
The other is that I like rangefinders but in my country I don't have any option of trading my camera for a good rangefinder with lightmeter - I don't have to be always guessing the right settings. They are either very expensive or don't have lightmeters. I've done that for a while with my FX-2 and I loved it but there are times that I hated it since I wasn't quick enough.
And the main thing. Why I take many photos? Because I have a bad memory. My family has an Alzheimer history. And at the same time, cancer history. Taking photos of everything is what sparkles my memory to not lose certain things. I am 20 years old and I've already lost 5 years of existing on my head and I have no idea how and no material to try to remember them.
I think you can figure out the rest...
I'll be always an amateur. I have no interest of going pro. There are too many people on the market and there are bigger interests on my life than photography. I just like to snap. But I'll try to control myself. I'm guessing from everyone's answers that there are no "cheaper solutions".
But thank you everyone. I would like more feedback on this. And I promise to take more control on my photos, even though they aren't getting bad
As for half frame photography... is there any worth rangefinders for it?
2-3 rolls each day is your problem indeed. It was always very expensive for this volume. And I can't recall anyone I knew to consume it like this.
Consider bw, four roll per month and developing at home only. Learn how to shot on film, not how to waste it.
Not everyone photographs the same way or for the same purposes. I go out and photograph for many, many hours. I would use more than 2-3 rolls of film easily. It is completely normal. This is not large format photography.
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