Need some help tracking down info

[zeissman2013]

to get info on a zeiss ikonta, i am almost CERTAIN i have a perfect condition
Zeiss Ikon Mess Ikonta 524/16 i just need some info on making sure i have the
right camera (no model #s present anywhere) and finding a possible manual for
this model, if in fact that is the right camera i need to find film to test it obviously, but i need to understand a little more about this cameras fucntions first, my guess it shoots black and white!

I looked through the rangefinder while moving the dials nothing seems to change,
shutter is fast and smooth unless i turn the shutter delay dial, have no clue
what the M/X switch does lol

any thoughts?

 

[Vics]

M/X is M= synch for flash bulbs and X= synch for electronic flash.
As far as I know, all cameras shoot both black & white and color.

 

[Vics]

Does it look like this?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...7.127.0j1.1.0...0.0...1ac.1.7.img.StL4UlpZL_g

 

[zeissman2013]

I suspected that those had to do with the flash lol

so they are of no use to me since i dont have a flash gun and i doubt i could find one anyway now, but anyway

so now i need to locate a manual and some film specs

then its just a matter of testing it, like i said i saw no changes in the rangefinder which makes me suspect that i am doing something wrong

quite a cool piece of camera, just got to get more info on how it is operated

 

[ZeissFan]

There are two eyepieces on the back of the camera. The circular one is used for focusing, and the rectangular one is for framing your shot.

You turn the dial on the right side of the top deck while peering through the circular window. Read the distance opposite the pointer triangle and then set the lens to that distance.

If you don't see an image, it probably means the viewing system should be cleaned and calibrated.

Your camera sounds like it's in good shape, but not perfect.

The model number should be embossed in the leather. I can't recall if it's embossed near the hinge, under the sliding door for the frame counter or near the back latch.

Any camera can shoot either color or black and white. This should have a coated lens and should perform better with color film, although I've never had any issues shooting color film with an uncoated lens.

 

[zeissman2013]

camera has a red leather case

on the back above the window to see the film number is the lettering

1230\16

as for looking through the circular window that is completely clouded but the light i can see doesnt change when i rotate the dial at all, so i wonder if i just sent it to infinity if it will allow me to test with a roll, which i STILL havent found out what roll it takes

I think something like this would work

http://www.amazon.com/Ilford-1629017-Black-White-Professional/dp/B00005MEAI/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1364286498&sr=1-1&keywords=120+film

 

[rpsawin]

This may be of some help:
http://www.certo6.com/cameras/zeiss-ikonta

 

[zeissman2013]

I saw the site before thanks for the link, however thats not my camera on his site, so i still need to find a manual and a film type

 

[ZeissFan]

If this number (1230\16) is on the case, then that simply is the part number for the case.

The camera's model number will be embossed in the camera back. Near the back latch, I believe.

Is this your camera?

By the way, this takes 120 film.

 

[zeissman2013]

thats it YES thats the camera

on the body of the camera there are a serial number stamped here it is

T79124 right on the edge where you flip open for film loading

 

[nparsons13]

According to data from the Zeiss Ikon Collectors Group, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZICG/, depending on the lens/shutter combination of your camera it was made sometime between 1952 and 1955.

 

[zeissman2013]

well today was the day, i bought some Ilford ISO 120 film (12 exposure) i loaded it per the manual (i accidentally loaded it wrong once) then realized the right way, i set the aperture to F8 for a sunny day, without the rangefinder i had to guess at distances. i banged out a roll of 12 exposures, there was a couple shots where the shutter button depressed but the shutter didnt fire, so im sure those prints will be all white or something funky, also when advancing the film when i first loaded it the roll was uneven on the spindle (maybe from sitting in a warehouse?) so it tore a little line through the film but only on the paper leading the film, also when advancing each exposure i noticed when the circles show up through the signal window its kind of tough to advance the film but once the number shows up it turns easily,

Like i said it was all experimental now i need to find a lab (im sure ill have to send out) that can process and find out if this camera really even works lol, Any suggestions on a lab

i took various shots with the roll of 12 i hope at least a few came out, i might have to have this camera restored if i want to shoot with it, im sure thats more expensive then its worth though

thanks guys for all the advice now we need to get this film processed and see the results,

 

[oftheherd]

Ilford doesn't make an ISO 120 film afik. But the film size is 120. You probably have either ISO 125 or 400. I think Ilford still gives a data sheet or puts exposure suggestions inside the box. As to the two shot where the shutter didn't fire, I would first check to see if you cocked the shutter, or encountered the double-exposure prevention system. BTW, I don't have such a camera so I am only guessing.

I do have a couple of other 120 folders however. Hopefully there is no problem with the shutter, but sometimes on older cameras, they need to have their shutter exercised to loosen old lubricant. It it's too bad, you may have to clean the shutter if you are brave enough to try that, or send it out for servicing.

As to processing, you might want to call a few camera stores in your area to see if they can process your film. If not, several places have been mentioned here in RFF as good. They may not be cheap, so if you decide to continue to use this camera, at least for black and white film, you might want to look into how to develop it yourself. It is actually pretty easy with a reasonably small outlay of money for the right equipment and chemicals. One place you might want to contact would be Precision, which is a sponsor of RFF. All reports I have read have been positive both as to quality and price.