vb_vmb
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great , thanks for comparison shot, TOM do you find, it has more contrast than SA, how is the details in blowups ?
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Tom A
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Found it and reposted it. Caption as above.
axiom
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Tim Gray
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Tom, if you want an easier way to post images from flickr, when you are on the photo page, click on the "Share" button above the photo. Then click on "Grab the HTML/BBCode". Select BBCode and the size (medium or large) and then copy the code in the box. Just paste that right into RFF. Doing it this way has the added advantage that we can click on the picture on RFF and go to your flickr page.
Tom A
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Tim, thanks for the info - at the moment the way Simon taught me seems to work and when it comes to computer I am a luddite. Will try your way sometimes later.
Tom
Tom
Tim Gray
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As long as we get the pictures, I'm happy 
Fotohuis
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Tom, This is the easiest way to "upload" a picture in any forum. If you choose the format, all sizes and then properties (right mouse click) you can put this "link" in the IMAGE. [ http:// ....... jpg ] Super simple and fast. It saves a lot of time.
Greetz,
Robert
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Tom, This is the easiest way to "upload" a picture in any forum. If you choose the format, all sizes and then properties (right mouse click) you can put this "link" in the IMAGE. [ http:// ....... jpg ] Super simple and fast. It saves a lot of time.
Greetz,
Robert
MCTuomey
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It's only a matter of time before people say the same thing about the SE 21/3.4 ASPH that's said about the 'lux 50 ASPH:
" ... the best small format lens ever made in that focal length ... "
It's down to taste whether one likes it, but in terms of resolution and consistency across the frame at all apertures the SE 21/3.4 ASPH is jaw-dropping judging from its mtf chart.
Edit: If the C-Biogon 21 and SE 21/3.4 ASPH's mtf charts were superimposed, they'd be very close indeed, too close to call. For film shooters, it's great to have the c-biogon alternative at zeiss prices.
" ... the best small format lens ever made in that focal length ... "
It's down to taste whether one likes it, but in terms of resolution and consistency across the frame at all apertures the SE 21/3.4 ASPH is jaw-dropping judging from its mtf chart.
Edit: If the C-Biogon 21 and SE 21/3.4 ASPH's mtf charts were superimposed, they'd be very close indeed, too close to call. For film shooters, it's great to have the c-biogon alternative at zeiss prices.
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Turtle
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Exactly. I like my 24 lux more than any other wide I own for the look of its images, but its MTF is far weaker than, say, my 21 biogon.
Tom A
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It is interesting to go back and look at stuff shot with the C Biogon and compare to the Super Elmar. The differences - if there is one is very small. They are both lenses that are about as good as we would ever need. I suspect that it is more "brand" loyalty than anything that will determine which one you get. The C Biogon is a bit more compact - the Super Elmar a bit better "handling".
Tim Gray
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That's what I wanted to hear. The other difference is that I already own a C Biogon, so I'll stick with it.
Actually it looks like the Biogon vignettes a bit more, but has a bit less distortion. I'm ok with both of those things for now
If I ever go digital, I guess I'd think about swapping for the Super Elmar to avoid the issues the Biogon has on the M9.
sepiareverb
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You make this very tempting Tom- and as I have the G-Biogon 21 for 2.8 work the Elmarit-ASPH may not stay in the fold....
Tom A
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Leica Super Elmar 21mm f3.4. Arista Premium 400 in D96. Leica M6
Tom A
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Leica Super Angulon 21mm f3.4 (late version 1979), Leica M2, Arista Premium 400, D96.
Tim Gray
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Wow the Super Angulon photo has a lot more contrast. Is that a scanning thing or what?
Tim, this is Vancouver in the fall! The time it took to switch cameras - the light changed! I do suspect that the SA is a bit more contrasty - but further test's are required! There are a handful of rolls of Tech Pan sitting there waiting for some better light - that should tell us.
Tim, this is Vancouver in the fall! The time it took to switch cameras - the light changed! I do suspect that the SA is a bit more contrasty - but further test's are required! There are a handful of rolls of Tech Pan sitting there waiting for some better light - that should tell us.
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J. Borger
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Thanks Tom.
Just what i needed to jump with confidence on a minty 21/3,4 Super Angulon. Prefer the older Leica lenses in all focal length. No exception here.
Just what i needed to jump with confidence on a minty 21/3,4 Super Angulon. Prefer the older Leica lenses in all focal length. No exception here.
Tom A
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The Super Elmar 21 at 5.6 or thereabouts. Virtually no edge fall off - even across the whole imagefield. Focus is on the edge of the first cedar. I like the "edge" on it. Arista Premium 400 in "homebrewed" D96 for 7.5 min.
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