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some rambly thoughts first...my 'plan' was to have 2 p cameras and 2 bottom loaders with similar lenses to make up 2 complete/seperate kits.
one just a bit 'older' than the other.
i thought it was a good plan.
but i've screwed that up by buying another p and thinking about selling the canon lll.
having 3 kits seems really excessive.
i also realized that 50mm just feels wrong to me. and i have 2 50mm lenses.
i'm thinking i 'should' have at least one, just 'cause.
so, maybe sell my current 50's and buy a 50/1.4 (?) and that would be my 'fast' lens, along with the 35/2 (kinda fast).
any thoughts?
feel free to ask questions on the remote
chance i'm making no sense here.
joe
one just a bit 'older' than the other.
i thought it was a good plan.
but i've screwed that up by buying another p and thinking about selling the canon lll.
having 3 kits seems really excessive.
i also realized that 50mm just feels wrong to me. and i have 2 50mm lenses.
i'm thinking i 'should' have at least one, just 'cause.
so, maybe sell my current 50's and buy a 50/1.4 (?) and that would be my 'fast' lens, along with the 35/2 (kinda fast).
any thoughts?
feel free to ask questions on the remote
chance i'm making no sense here.joe
taffer
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Well the 50/1.4 seems to be definitely a 'go for it' lens... I think you won't regret, unless you need a collapsible lens for something, which I think it's not your case...
Same for the III if you already think you have enough with the IVSB. P+100/3.5, P+35/2, P+50/1.4, IVSB+28/3.5...
Sounds good to me
Same for the III if you already think you have enough with the IVSB. P+100/3.5, P+35/2, P+50/1.4, IVSB+28/3.5...
Sounds good to me
R
ray_g
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taffer said:
That's gonna be one heavy bag
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after lugging way too much gear to new york, i'm putting away the m classic bag and using the tiny tamrac or maybe the small billingham for now.
one camera with 2 lenses total, that's the mantra for now.
so ray, whadya think, sell the 50's?
joe
one camera with 2 lenses total, that's the mantra for now.
so ray, whadya think, sell the 50's?
joe
FrankS
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How did you get on with the bottom loaders, Joe? I found that after getting an M body, the IIIf was just too fiddley.
I'm about to have 3 M bodies (2,3,6) kind of like your 3 P's, and in lenses: 25, 2x35, 40, 5x50, 85, 90, 135mm.
I'm about to have 3 M bodies (2,3,6) kind of like your 3 P's, and in lenses: 25, 2x35, 40, 5x50, 85, 90, 135mm.
R
ray_g
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backalley photo said:
Here's what I suggest:
Get a Bianchi leather belt plus a matching pair of Bianchi hip holsters. P + 35/2 in one, P +50/1.4 in the other.
28mm and 100mm each in a leather ammo bag on the belt, in the small of your back.
Tri-X in film canisters lined up in a bandolier on your chest.
MP3 and headphones playing the theme from "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly" as you prowl the streets. :angel:
R
ray_g
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backalley photo said:
Seriously, I would sell the 50's and get a 50/1.4 as you plan.
One body, two lenses: Joe you are a 35 kinda guy. That means the 35/2 on the P, + the 100/3.5. Most tele shots (portraits) tend to be deliberate, so you can easily switch lenses.
Two bodies: The cowboy setup in the post above, but in a bag
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well ray, ya answered everything EXCEPT my question!
frank,
i actually like the bottom feeders. not really hard to load but still can't do it on the run like with the p's.
i realized that with the iv sb i could use the 28 w/ finder but also use it with another lens also. the lll really is best suited for external finders only, so the iv sb is more versatile. i may keep the lll...don't know yet.
my quandary is with the 50 mm lenses. i like the idea of the collapsible and the sharpness of the 1.8 but not the focal length so much.
with a 1.4 i get speed and sharpness and a 50 if i need one.
i would buy the one alan has for sale but he only uses paypal and i don't have an account so i'm s.o.l., pity...
joe
frank,
i actually like the bottom feeders. not really hard to load but still can't do it on the run like with the p's.
i realized that with the iv sb i could use the 28 w/ finder but also use it with another lens also. the lll really is best suited for external finders only, so the iv sb is more versatile. i may keep the lll...don't know yet.
my quandary is with the 50 mm lenses. i like the idea of the collapsible and the sharpness of the 1.8 but not the focal length so much.
with a 1.4 i get speed and sharpness and a 50 if i need one.
i would buy the one alan has for sale but he only uses paypal and i don't have an account so i'm s.o.l., pity...
joe
FrankS
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So you're not getting Alan's 50 f1.4? I passed on that because you expressed interest.
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ray_g said:Seriously, I would sell the 50's and get a 50/1.4 as you plan.
One body, two lenses: Joe you are a 35 kinda guy. That means the 35/2 on the P, + the 100/3.5. Most tele shots (portraits) tend to be deliberate, so you can easily switch lenses.
Two bodies: The cowboy setup in the post above, but in a bag
ah, ya beat me to the post.
i'm thinking 2 p's with a 35 on each (2 & 2.8) along with the 100/3.5
third p with the 50/1.4 and maybe the 85/2 in another bag.
joe
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FrankS said:
paypal frank!
i don't use it and now i'm sunk!
there will be another...
joe
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ray_g
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Or a navy blue collectible Bessa T with matching trigger winder
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not really my cup of tea...
have you another 50/1.4 though?
joe
have you another 50/1.4 though?
joe
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ray_g
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Yep, and I am very much attached to it.
R
ray_g
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Like you plan, it's my fast 50, after I sold the Nokton
FrankS
Registered User
Actually I'm down to my last few dollars of PayPal. They give you an amount to spend before they require a bank account or credit card and I'm just about at that limit. Now that I've got everything I want, I won't need PayPal anymore.
Joe, if I had a large enough amount of money left to spend via PayPal, I would offer to buy the lens for you (you could send me a check) but unfortunately, like I explained, I'm down to a few dollars. Perhaps someone else with an active PayPal account will offer to help?
Joe, if I had a large enough amount of money left to spend via PayPal, I would offer to buy the lens for you (you could send me a check) but unfortunately, like I explained, I'm down to a few dollars. Perhaps someone else with an active PayPal account will offer to help?
Biggles
My cup runneth amok.
Keep two identical P bodies. Sell or trade the most beaterly of the three Ps, and similarly dispose of the III. Keep one of the fifties, as well, or better yet, trade/sell both to get a killer "standard" lens. A 50mm (in 35mm format) is the dark blue blazer of lensdom- a good one in the clothes cupboard is never a bad idea, even if you're a jeans and T-shirt kind of guy. The need will arise. Also, a really good lens (like a decent blazer) tends to get itself used out of sheer aesthetic brilliance.
Long term? Keep the two identical bodies, with one always recently CLA-ed. Plan toward building-up up a full complement of one of each lens appropriate to your picture-taking habits, the best example of each you can afford or justify. You like wides? Buy the absolute best fast 35mm lens you can screw into a P. You just need one- lenses don't go south anywhere near as often as bodies do. And, even if you don't plan on using it, sock away one uncompromising, totally merciless fifty.
Long term? Keep the two identical bodies, with one always recently CLA-ed. Plan toward building-up up a full complement of one of each lens appropriate to your picture-taking habits, the best example of each you can afford or justify. You like wides? Buy the absolute best fast 35mm lens you can screw into a P. You just need one- lenses don't go south anywhere near as often as bodies do. And, even if you don't plan on using it, sock away one uncompromising, totally merciless fifty.
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thanks for the thought frank.
biggles, i pretty much have all that i need for lenses except that one fast sharp 50.
the 50/1.8 is sharp and pretty fast but the 1.4 is calling to me.
my 35/2 is sharp and kinda modern looking while my 35/2.8 is sharp with lower contrast so a bit older looking. (photo wise, that is)
i have a fast & sharp 85/2 and a slow and sharp 100/3.5
and recently added a 28/3.5 - still evaluating it.
all canon screw mount lenses btw.
will soon have 3 p canons and 2 bottom feeders.
crazy,
joe
joe
biggles, i pretty much have all that i need for lenses except that one fast sharp 50.
the 50/1.8 is sharp and pretty fast but the 1.4 is calling to me.
my 35/2 is sharp and kinda modern looking while my 35/2.8 is sharp with lower contrast so a bit older looking. (photo wise, that is)
i have a fast & sharp 85/2 and a slow and sharp 100/3.5
and recently added a 28/3.5 - still evaluating it.
all canon screw mount lenses btw.
will soon have 3 p canons and 2 bottom feeders.
crazy,
joe
joe
Biggles
My cup runneth amok.
Two bottom-feeders? Gak! Purge!
Sell the bottom-feeders, the 35 f2.8, both 50 f1.8s, and the most scratched-and-dented of the Ps. Pile the money on the kitchen floor, roll around in it for an afternoon, then go buy a fricking Leitz Noctilux or vintage screw-mount Nokton!
(Erm, I assume Canon Ps take Leica screw-mount lenses.)
Seriously, sir. Quality and condition over quantity, any day.
Sell the bottom-feeders, the 35 f2.8, both 50 f1.8s, and the most scratched-and-dented of the Ps. Pile the money on the kitchen floor, roll around in it for an afternoon, then go buy a fricking Leitz Noctilux or vintage screw-mount Nokton!
(Erm, I assume Canon Ps take Leica screw-mount lenses.)
Seriously, sir. Quality and condition over quantity, any day.
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i love the 35/2.8, it's a keeper.
i only use canon screwmount lenses on my canon bodies.
i want to keep the iv sb bottom feeder at least.
don't want a leitz and all the p's are in good shape or better
i have quality and it seems quantity also...
but i think i just might sell the 50's.
joe
i only use canon screwmount lenses on my canon bodies.
i want to keep the iv sb bottom feeder at least.
don't want a leitz and all the p's are in good shape or better
i have quality and it seems quantity also...
but i think i just might sell the 50's.
joe