sepiareverb
genius and moron
I bought an additional 40 rolls when I heard it was discontinued. I had just gotten 20.
Fuji doesn't care what we want. They have to please their stockholders. Film just doesn't bring in the yen anymore.
Fuji doesn't care what we want. They have to please their stockholders. Film just doesn't bring in the yen anymore.
Rob-F
Likes Leicas
Your at least 6 weeks too late, once it was discovered here that the film was on the way out almost all available stocks where bought up.
I managed to score 200 roll's.
Well . . . I still have a lot more posts than you.
I can spell, too. The contraction for "you are" is "you're" and not "your."
Seriously, I knew the chances were slim. Just thought I'd check. Actually, I can live without that particular film, if necessary.
mgd711
Medium Format Baby!!
I can spell, too. The contraction for "you are" is "you're" and not "your."
If there's one thing I hate and makes me fly off the handle (and is likely to get me banned from here) is people who pick through your English and tell you you got it wrong, I'm serious.
I'm at work just now and I have to speak Japanese, Tagalog and B'hasa but I also speak some Mandarin, French, Scot's Gaelic, Brasilian Portugese and Cantonese. I have one smart *ss on my crew who happens to be from somewhere over your way and he's always picking up my English mistakes. Guess how many languages he speaks?
This is an international forum, people communicate the best they can. All that matters is being understood.
igi
Well-known
It seems like a good idea but I think the flaw here is that there are only a relatively few who buy Neopan 1600 and they all went panic buying upon hearing it's discontinuation.
If the same old people have been clearing Neopan 1600 off the shelves before, it clearly means it's not the way to save the film.
What Neopan 1600 could have needed was new people who will use the film. Sadly, the day Neopan 1600 became the talk of the town is also when it's discontinued and also when frequent buyers hoarded so much of it.
Newbies who never knew Neopan 1600 could have tried it and be converted these days but alas, no Neopan 1600 can be bought.
I'm not surprised why there are just few petioners
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Roger Hicks
Veteran
You are of course absolutely right and have thought it through better than I.
Personally I never cared for the stuff. HP5 is only about 1/3 stop slower, less grainy and (in my experience) tonally superior, though I know plenty who will argue with the latter, on the basis of equally valid personal experience.
Cheers,
R.
cidereye
Film Freak
Signed also, but alas like others can't see this will change a thing - if people don't buy/use it then Fuji won't make it.
tonal1
Established
All I know is, as long as film is made solely on the basis of every last roll bringing in a juicy profit for the manufacturer, we lose. Not to wax naively utopian, but I see the loss of - and think how few there really are - a single emulsion as a small cultural loss.
If one day all we have is 35mm and 4x5 "Ilford HP6.2" or digital, I won't be surprised.
Oh damn, did I just go all "doom and gloom!" Sorry about that!
If one day all we have is 35mm and 4x5 "Ilford HP6.2" or digital, I won't be surprised.
Oh damn, did I just go all "doom and gloom!" Sorry about that!
sepiareverb
genius and moron
Ilford is certainly in B&W for the long term, and frequently make comments to that effect. That's assuming nothing dreadful happens of course, but their intentions are by far the best among the big three for us film users. I have my doubts there will be any Fuji film in ten years, and completely believe Kodak won't be far behind. Now that even my crappy little movie theater is 'projecting' DVDs instead of film, I don't know where I can go to see a film on actual film. The art house theater was renovated three years ago and 'upgraded' to DVD projection. We saw a movie last week and afterward my wife said she thinks movies look far better at home. The 'experience' has certainly suffered as well with 15 minutes of local ads before two measly previews.
Like it or not film is quite tied to the movie industry, and it is only a matter of time before Bollywood follows the switch to digital.
Like it or not film is quite tied to the movie industry, and it is only a matter of time before Bollywood follows the switch to digital.
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Mackinaw
Think Different
What scares me now is the very high price of silver. I'm hoping this is just a market "blip" and prices will drop to more reasonable levels soon. A sustained high cost of silver will affect ALL film products.
Jim B.
Jim B.
photogdave
Shops local
That is quite the bummer! Digital projection is currently so far behind film projection it's laughable.
However, Hollywood studio do try to archive all their movies on film, even if it was captured digitally in the first place. So film and scanner technology are very much in use for this aspect of filmmaking.
Kodak runs an ad in American Cinematographer Magazine every month featuring a different DOP saying how much they prefer to shoot on film.
I used to believe the studios would force productions to shoot digital to save money but I've read enough articles and interviews to show that all the back end costs of digital capture balance out against the front end cost of shooting film so it's a wash.
Mackinaw
Think Different
What may help is "Bollywood," which is the Indian film industry. I hear they still mainly use film.
Jim B.
Jim B.