Austerby
Well-known
I spotted a good deal on Neopan 400 in 120 size when it was being withdrawn and have about 25 rolls of it. However, I've not actually used it much.
What are the recommendations for exposure and which developers work best with it?
My normal developers are Rodinal and ID-11
What are the recommendations for exposure and which developers work best with it?
My normal developers are Rodinal and ID-11
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Bob Michaels
nobody special
Start off by developing it just exactly like you did the other b&w iso 400 film you used. Then tweak if necessary.
If you have never shot b&w iso 400 film, follow the instructions on the Fuji data sheet. Or, the data sheet for whatever developer you have normally use. They do know what they are talking about.
Personally, I always expose 120 Neopan 400 at an e.i. of 250 and develop it in 1:50 Rodinal for 9-10 minutes. But that is only what I like. Hopefully you will have some baseline for whatever you already like.
If you have never shot b&w iso 400 film, follow the instructions on the Fuji data sheet. Or, the data sheet for whatever developer you have normally use. They do know what they are talking about.
Personally, I always expose 120 Neopan 400 at an e.i. of 250 and develop it in 1:50 Rodinal for 9-10 minutes. But that is only what I like. Hopefully you will have some baseline for whatever you already like.
Nokton48
Veteran
I have had good results with ADOX Borax MQ, which is a D-76 derivitive. I used nine minutes at 20C in a 64oz Nikor steel tank. Agitation was five inversions every 60 sec. ID-11 would be much the same.
I also expose mine at EI 250. If it's a particularly nice scene, I will bracket frames, so I have a choice of negs to use.
I also expose mine at EI 250. If it's a particularly nice scene, I will bracket frames, so I have a choice of negs to use.
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Austerby
Well-known
Thanks, that ties in with other information I've found. I'll give it a go at 250ASA then Rodinal 1+50 and see what I get.
PatrickT
New Rangefinder User
Nothing really to add to this thread except for the fact that I LOVE Neopan 400 in 120. Great film.
Freakscene
Obscure member
If you use Rodinal you lose some speed, which is why Ei250 works well. Xtol 1+3 also works well. In 120 you get more latitude because the effects of (particularly) more exposure - more grain and a slight loss of sharpness - are less apparent.
St Petersburg, July 2005. Neopan 400 120, Rolleiflex 2.8F. Xtol 1+3 EI 200.
Marty
St Petersburg, July 2005. Neopan 400 120, Rolleiflex 2.8F. Xtol 1+3 EI 200.
Marty
marduk
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Turtle
Veteran
Just go with the ID-11 you are used to. I use Xtol 1+1 or 1+2 or DDX. ID-11 will be similar with slightly less speed, so using ID-11 1+1 try rating it at 320 for starters in average light and perhaps 200-250 if the light is a bit higher in contrast.
I have never used ID-11, but hear widely that is is a very good match. no need to mess about with exotic brew IMHO, esp as you have only 25 rolls. Might as well keep it simple with what you already use for other films.
I have never used ID-11, but hear widely that is is a very good match. no need to mess about with exotic brew IMHO, esp as you have only 25 rolls. Might as well keep it simple with what you already use for other films.
crawdiddy
qu'est-ce que c'est?
Wow! I love these Neopan shots. I recently bought some Neopan 400 35mm. For the first time. I just hung up the first roll to dry, and it looks very nice (D76 1+1). Nice contrast and tones.
I've only used the Kodak and Ilford emulsions before, and I'm wondering what Neopan will resemble.
I've only used the Kodak and Ilford emulsions before, and I'm wondering what Neopan will resemble.
Turtle
Veteran
N400 resembles nothing else to my eyes. It can, under certain circumstances, look a little like TriX, but then it looks a bit like FP4+ and then....
it has finer grain and much higher resolution than any other traditional 400 film I have used (by a mile) and is nipping at the heels of Delta 400 on resolution and fine grain. It can look rather clean and modern, but mostly looks quite unique. I am using up my remaining 400 stock (35mm) and will then move on as I like to shoot the same emulsions in 35mm and 120 and thats no longer possible.
it has finer grain and much higher resolution than any other traditional 400 film I have used (by a mile) and is nipping at the heels of Delta 400 on resolution and fine grain. It can look rather clean and modern, but mostly looks quite unique. I am using up my remaining 400 stock (35mm) and will then move on as I like to shoot the same emulsions in 35mm and 120 and thats no longer possible.
Freakscene
Obscure member
I agree that its tonality is beautiful and unique. I like it a lot, and miss it in 120.
Marty
Marty