Neopan 400 Reminds me of "OLD" Tri-X.

Tom A said:
i could use as that and process TX and NP 400 in the same run. [...] I used a variety of developers on the film too.
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Thanks for the info, Tom. Very interesting. May I ask what developers you used for TX/NP400? More specifically, have you tried Xtol with NP400?

Thanks

Vincent
 
palec said:
Isn't Presto just Japanese market name for Neopan 400?
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The edge writing, I believe is identical.

Dirk, who runs the Megaperls website insists so, sometimes even getting irate it seems at people asking all the time! See Dirk's reply here:

http://photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CZWH

I first tried Presto 400 when I met a Japanese photographer in Sapa, Vietnam and we traded a few rolls of film with each other. He too said Presto 400 and the Neopan 400 in the US are the same exact emulsion and my experiences sort of panned that out.

Some discussion of the Presto/Neopan 400 here (and some talk on the Fuji vs. Tri-X differences too):

http://photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=003wT0
 
Also the box says so:

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I just got 100ft of presto 400 the test roll i did for a Canonette 28 came out nice in ifosol 1-9 or at least the negs came out nice, now ill try it in some more soups. I think ill buy some more if its not all gone. The 1600 dont look half bad either!
 
Here are some shots from Las Vegas last year - Neopan 400 @ 400 developed in HC-110 H for 9:30 (30 sec plus 2 inversions at 3 and 6 min):



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I am also using Neopan 400.

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Quito, EC [photo of the entrance of Teatro Bolivar]

Neopan 400 here in Ecuador is $4.50 USD with tax.

Cheers
MArk
Quito, EC
 
vincentbenoit said:
Thanks for the info, Tom. Very interesting. May I ask what developers you used for TX/NP400? More specifically, have you tried Xtol with NP400?

Thanks

Vincent
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Most of the stuff for the February run was done with Beutler and PCK developers (home brews) and the stuff with the Presto 400 was one of Crawley's concoctions called FX 37. I am not worried about grain as I rarely print larger than 11x14 and at that magnification the grain might be visible (at least with Beutler) but not offensively so. The Neopan 400 seems to respond well to any D76 type developer too.
I am getting another 300 ft of NP 400 next week so i will try some more soups with it.
 
I read that Neopan 400 120 film has an antihalation layer that can cause purple negatives,
but the 35mm version does not. What's the story?

Chris
 
ChrisPlatt said:
I read that Neopan 400 120 film has an antihalation layer that can cause purple negatives,
but the 35mm version does not. What's the story?

Chris
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This is common in many 120 film and 35mm films.

Doing some Google research I found this quote from a photo.net thread on the subject:

"This because it isn't practical to put the anti-halation layer on the back of the film when the film is going to be rubbing against the pressure plate. 120 roll film has baching paper all the way, so there is no danger of the AHL rubbing off on the pressure plate. That makes it possible to use a lighter base, with an anti-halation layer on the back of the film."

I find a few extra rinses/washes gets most if not all the AHL out, and if the negs are slightly pink or purple I've never found it was a problem come printing or scanning time.
 
I am adding Neopan 400 35mm film to my short list of films to try again.

Are there any decent 400 speed 120 films without an antihalation layer?
I can't stand purple negs...

Chris
 
ChrisPlatt said:
Are there any decent 400 speed 120 films without an antihalation layer?
I can't stand purple negs...

Chris
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Plus-X in Diafine?
 
Purple negs just need more fix and proper wash.

BTW- lovely pix, greg
 
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I've used Neopan 400 and the old SS 100 for years. The SS 100 will give slightly purply tinged negs. Try developing it in T-max dev, it's great.
 
Neopan 400 (Japanese name is Presto) is the most cheapest BW film in Japan.
Yes, it's just a brag ok?
Anti-halation dye remained is innocent for printing, though some irregular mist will be appeared in digital scanning.
 
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Neopan films are what I use the most. Especially the "Super Presto" 1600 version (Dirk at Megaperls has it at a good price). You can use it over a wide range of lighting situations if you develop accordingly. The grain is fairly large and sharp, which I happen to like, and there are very little edge effects (unlike the classic Tri-X or Hp5 behaviour). Oh, and I have used D76 for everything for years (try rodinal with this film for crazy grain:)
 
marzipan said:
The grain is fairly large and sharp, which I happen to like, and there are very little edge effects (unlike the classic Tri-X or Hp5 behaviour).
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Aha, the creamy texture was come from the little edge effect, isn't it?
I like that texture, like Soft-Cream which is the most running ice cream in Japan.
 
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