If someone can walk into a camera shop these days and see/hold/consider a new black Leica M6 ttl, boxed with paperwork, a camera that has not been made for some time now, then it seems to me the shop is NOT in a hurry to sell it. Why would the shop sell it for anything less than $1700 now? Hard times? Taxes due? Maybe, but not likely. Nope, face it: $1700 for a new Leica M6ttl is a deal. Think not? Well, do an ebay search on historic selling prices for black M6ttl cameras...but do not forget to put "new" in your search. That should narrow things down quite a bit.